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Old 04-13-2019, 05:05 PM
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Im sanj and in setting up the zeovit system on my marine reef tank for a second time. The first attempt went wrong because I added some snails that died and raised nitrates in my system which killed all my sps corals!

Any help with my second attempt would be appreciated! 😀
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What kind and how many snails did you have
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:02 PM
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The Zeo new system has a 14-day cycle, using basic products, and some quality live rock, no additional ammonia source (if I understand what you mean)

Nitrate does not really kill corals

You may have to trouble you to fill out the basic information about tank. Is the tank now 14 days after the loop? More pictures
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Old 04-14-2019, 12:17 AM
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Please also post some more details about your system:

https://zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14

Do you plan to start a complete fresh system which first needs to by cycled or do you like to transfer a existing system to ZeoVit ?

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Old 04-14-2019, 01:02 AM
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Hi there many thanks for the replies here are my tank details:
1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - 365 litres (uk)
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - UK gallons 300
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique yes balling method
4. Are you using phosphate reactor no
5. Are you using Ozone no
6. Are you using UV no
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume) Deltec sc 1456 rated for a 1000 litres
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels nitrate 100 phosphate not sure yet
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels 500, 8 , 1350
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)no
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp how old, etc.) Radion g4 sp30 a few months old
12. What corals do you keep only soft corals atm
13. Tissue color (light or dark) n/a
14. How long has the tank been running 6 months
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system wAnt ulns for good coral colour
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.) no
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.) 60kg real reef rock
18. Any present problems high nitrate
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.) n/a
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.) tetra test
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.) n/a
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.) salinity 1.026 temp 25
23. Which salt brand do you use dd reef salt
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:04 AM
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Please also post some more details about your system:

https://zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14

Do you plan to start a complete fresh system which first needs to by cycled or do you like to transfer a existing system to ZeoVit ?

G.Alexander
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I plan to start the zeovit on an existing system which has fish and some soft corals
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:07 AM
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Old 04-14-2019, 01:44 AM
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It turns out that it is a living animal (coral, fish), it needs to be opened in 3hr, 3hr off, the dose is different from 14 cycles.

Waiting for G.Alexander to give us a more detailed plan

This is some of my little suggestions.
Recommended element level
kh 6.5~7.5
Ca 400~420
Mg 1250~1300
K+~380

First check if the salinity is suitable, If you have added equipment automatically, you can temporarily stop it. At present, corals may not be needed. After waiting for natural consumption, they should be as stable as possible at the recommended level.

Also, check if Ro/di is good. About NO3=100, Tank runs for 6 months. This is not reasonable. It doesn't matter. Let's start with Zeo basics.

Zeo Basics Products -
Zeo Bac
Zeo Sponge Power
Zeo Start3
ZeoVit
Zeo's activated carbon
If you want, extra Zeo Coral Snow is also good.
You may also need to get a potassium test kit, and a potassium additive (Zeo KB - Strong)
In addition, a high-precision phosphate testing machine is obtained.

I don't have a good led experience. I think it's a good choice to add some T5 tubes. Of course you can consider them later.

Some ideas and suggestions
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Old 04-15-2019, 02:36 AM
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Thank you for the additional information. First start with the basics products to decrease nutrients for a net water volume of 300 liters:

1. Place 0.7 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 300 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.3 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 3 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 3 drops. Dose 0.3 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

As nutrients seem to be high at the moment you will need some patience before they start do decrease, this can take up to a couple of month, just wanted to let you know.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

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Old 04-15-2019, 09:57 AM
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Thank for that G

I haven’t got the zeo reactor yet but hopefully will b soon. The tank is set up st a friends house and will b moved in a couple of months. It will be after this move that I add any corals �� so waiting two months will b a good thing

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Old 04-16-2019, 04:25 AM
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Are radions enough to grow sps? Or will I defo need t5s?
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Old 04-17-2019, 02:25 AM
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I do not have experience with LED, sorry maybe some others will jump in with their experiences

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Old 04-17-2019, 06:46 AM
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There is plenty of proof and examples of incredible reefs with LED only. I ran LED only for years with good growth. The trick is you want the lights as high off the water as possible since it’s a point source. 1-2 feet above. Careful on the intensity. However, I ended up getting a T5/LED hybrid as the light is more filled in with some t5. Can’t say I saw any change with the added T5 hence trying Zeovit now.
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Old 04-17-2019, 08:53 AM
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It may be the relationship of pictures, the water volume is only 300L (deducting stones), which surprised me.

I think you can execute the ZeoVit system first, maybe the light source is enough.

Coral growth/color/health, not entirely dependent on lighting conditions

Led/T5, HQI/T5, All Led, All T5, All HQI, different styles of mashups/matches, all very good, also appear in any beautiful coral reef tank, it also depends on your personal preference

After temporarily raising and executing the Zeo system and observing the changes and appearance of the coral, perhaps the Led light is sufficient.

Led, I don't have any good experience, I am quite sorry about this.

I am also very sorry, raised the question of possible light source, it is just a thought of mine.

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Old 07-08-2019, 12:14 PM
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Right I have added the zeo reactor to the system and am dosing daily for the first two weeks three drops of zeobak and 0.3ml of zeostart. Today is my first day! I have also added zeocarbon to the system as well.
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