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Old 04-12-2019, 07:46 AM
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Default Moving to Zeovit - Recommendations please

Hello!

I am preparing for a move to Zeovit. Below is my tank profile.

. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter - 138 Gallons (Reefer 525XL)
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter - 125 gallons
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique - no reactor
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.) - No reactor. Refugium and occasional Phosguard
5. Are you using Ozone - No
6. Are you using UV - no
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume) - ReefOcto 150 SSM 150gal tank rated
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels NO3 2.5PPM, PHos .07 (Hanna)
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels ALk 7.6, Cal 420, Mg 1320
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.) Refugium, CHaeto, Marine Pure BLock
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.) T5, 2 Blue PLUS, 2 Actinic Plus, 3 Kessil 360WE
12. What corals do you keep - All SPS
13. Tissue color (light or dark) - Moderate - per the corals to BROWN.
14. How long has the tank been running. 6 mos
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system - Control Nutrient better than what I have. PO4 seems to wander. Better coral coloration and growth. Unexplained RTN and STN.
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.) - RED SEA ALK/CAL/MG, Reef Energy AB, COLORS ABCD. Feed various foods.
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.) - No real live rock. ReefRock, 100 lbs
18. Any present problems - Varying PO4. Some algae.
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.). Unexplained RTN and STN on one at a time but rolls through tank when starting.
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.). Hanna (Phosphorus, Alk, Calcium), Salifert Nitrate, Red Sea for trace elements and others.
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.). Just starting Zeovit. Dosing Flatworm STOP as precaution and AcroBooster
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.) 1.026, 79 degrees F, pH 8.0-8.3 (CO2 scrubber in use.
23. Which salt brand do you use. TRopic Marin.
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Old 04-12-2019, 08:52 AM
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Also - I have an Avast Vibe 2L reactor and starter kit arriving today to install on the system this weekend.

For in-tank flow I have 2 ICECAP 3000 gyre (mounted L&R) and 2 Apex WAV on back wall pointed forward. So tons of flow.
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Old 04-12-2019, 12:00 PM
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Also - potassium has been stable at 416 and my automatic water changes at 1.5 gallons daily amounts to about 10% per week water change.
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Hi Huntindawg



First of all I would recommend to download the dosing guide from:

http://www.korallen-zucht.de/files/z..._english-1.pdf

It contains a lot of useful information and will be helpful to get a feeling for the dosage.

First start with the basics products to decrease nutrients:

1. Place 1.2 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 125 US gallons per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.4 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 5 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 5 drops each. Dose 0.45 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

With the system it is not recommended to use a PO4 absorber. I would recommend to remove 1/3 of the absorber if you start with zeovit, than reduce the rest over the next 6 – 8 weeks step by step to zero. If this is done keep a eye on the PO4 level which should not increase.

When starting ZeoVit stop dosing the Reef Energy supplements also the coral food. I would also recommend to remove the Marine Pure Block in about 4 – 5 weeks if the PO4 level does not increase while the transfer. If you like to you can continue to dose Flatworm Stop as precaution but at the moment lets stop to dose Coral Booster also.

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

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Old 04-13-2019, 05:10 AM
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Thank you. At present there is no other phosphate absorber in the system. I only use that when it starts to climb but it has been stable around this level for a couple weeks.
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Old 04-15-2019, 07:40 PM
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So I understand for a conversion tank we use 3 hours on and 3 off. At what point do I take that up? And what do I take it to from the 3 on and 3 off?
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Old 04-16-2019, 02:36 AM
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I would recommend to use the interval for the transition, about 2 weeks after the first ZeoVit exchange you can switch the reactor to continuous flow if all corals are doing fine.

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Old 05-11-2019, 11:52 AM
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I started the system today. Feed the corals with the Zeofood+ per the instruction dose?
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Old 05-11-2019, 10:44 PM
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My recommendation is to use ZeoFood later if the system runs nutrient poor stabile to improve corals coloration.

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Old 05-12-2019, 06:31 AM
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Ok. Thanks.

My phos has been running .001 Hanna with nitrates at 1- 2ppm salifert. Been harvesting hair algae and seeing dinos for a week. Rockwork and sand bed pretty heavy in areas between rock that I can not get to so I know there is more than the readings show.

So zeobac and zeostart only and feed the fish only.
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Old 05-12-2019, 07:44 AM
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I think it is good to try to lower the nutrient salt first, and the low malnutrition water quality is good.

The five basic components of the ZEOvit system interact to effectively reduce nutrients and establish water conditions close to the parameters encountered by corals in their natural habitat. The five basic components are:

1. A balanced zeolite mixture (ZEOvit).
2. Microbial Solutions (ZEObak).
3. Combination of bacteria and coral food (ZEOfood)
4. Bacterial food (ZEOstart)
5. Constant filtration with activated carbon

Food7 will stop temporarily,
use Zeo Sponge Power (if you want, every other day, 5 drops), I believe it is ok

If I understand the meaning, algae / coral TN problem
Then you can add 10ml CoralSnow every other day and remove it by manpower. The toothbrush is your good helper, and the siphon sand bed is used to help make more cleaning, adjust the Skimmer wet, and do as much as possible of any "output".

Coral TN problem, it is difficult to say what is the cause, then we can start from the stability of water quality parameters
Kh 6.5~7.5
Ca 400~420
Mg 1250~1300
K+~380-400

Know from your narrative
18. Any existing questions - change PO4. Some algae.
19. Description of the problem (historic loss tip, tissue loss base, algae, algae, etc.). Unexplained RTN and STN appear one at a time, but pass through the fuel tank at startup

May be like this - My experience is not very good, maybe it is like this

PO4 changes and fluctuations

Elements such as Kh Ca fluctuate

Some bad carbon, causing coral stress, due to rapid nutrient reduction, burning tip, pale coral, reduced PE, or some form of deprivation of elements, resulting in loss of coral tissue
(What brand of activated carbon do you use?)

Or the ZeoVit material is not used correctly, due to rapid nutrient reduction, RTN, coral death

In addition to the PO4 adsorbent, you don’t know whether you use other things besides the Zeo product, "other objects", "original", etc.

Not recommended for the Zeo system, and the unsuitable "things" will also put extra pressure on the corals.

The top of the coral tissue burns, it is recommended that you use all Zeo brands, such as activated carbon. And it is also possible due to changes in potassium

It’s hard to know exactly what the real reason is, and keep the water quality parameters recommended by the guide as stable as possible.

And, according to G.Alexander's professional advice, go through this system conversion period

Any other nutritional supplements are not currently necessary,You can continue taking Flatworm Stop as a precaution
keeping water parameters stable and converting with the system

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Old 05-13-2019, 05:18 PM
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Turns out my coral TN issues seem to be the LED lights. I turned them way down and let the T5 lamps do the lighting and the TN stopped. Using 2 KZ 10,000k and two of the gen 2 14,000k in the fixture and only the LED on low power for morning and evening.

Day 2 with Zeovit reactor running 3hours on then 3 off. Dosing as advised. Nitrates at .2 but phos has climbed to .09 but was expected as I clean out the sump and rocks more.

Zeo carbon in a bag as directed.

KH is 7.2 rock solid. Calcium 415. Potassium 405.
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Old 05-14-2019, 02:18 AM
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Thank you for your update.

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Old 05-16-2019, 06:19 PM
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Day 5. Everything holding stable. Hair algae is decreasing. Skimmer is turned up quite a bit yet barely pulling anything. Nitrates .25 and phos .03. Dino’s disappeared. Corals looking fine. Alk still 7.2 and holding with dosing. Starting small increases to the T5 lights as they are only running about 5 hours with the switch off from LEDs from doing any real work.

Sponge Power arriving tomorrow. Not feeding anything other than the fish. Still waiting for the brown sludge you hear about in conversions. Reactor running in 3 hour intervals.
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Old 05-17-2019, 02:25 AM
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If SpongePower arrives you can dose 5 drops every other day for the first 4 weeks, than this quantity 2 x weekly should work well.

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