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Old 05-07-2019, 01:50 AM
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Have you done any changes with the system or added any kind of new equipment in the last 4 weeks ?

Really sorry to hear, what do you think might be the reason for the problems ?

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Hey. There were no changes, I am patient ..... and I never rush things.
RO \ DI -000 everything is fine here as a large system is powered by this installation, I follow this.
Here is a photo....
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I don't have a good idea right now.

The picture I saw is not very clear. From the signs in the picture (green algae on the magnet, algae on the sand?) nutrient salt is not very low

What is the current level of NP

What is the total dose?

Is it algae or bacteria on the sand bed? Is there a clear picture of it?

Is there any pressure on the coral at present?

In addition to the Zeo series of products, what are some of the additional brand products? For example, lamps, what else?

Sorry, it’s really hard to find out why.

Then I think at this time, if the quality of Ro/di water is good, try to change the water, skimmer to adjust the humidity, maintain the addition of Zeo base products, and the appropriate flow rate of ZeoVit reactor per hour. Any other nutritional supplements, etc. are suspended first, if you prefer Coral Snow.

The appearance of the live rock is indeed different from the previous display. It may be the relationship of the picture. It becomes dark black and darker.

Glass magnet brush, the part that is in contact with sea water. Is the appearance intact? (Check it)
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Old 05-08-2019, 04:10 AM
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As Jacky has already mention I would also remove the glass cleaning magnet if you do not use it, you can never be sure they are sealed 100%.

Has the problem come slowly or was is a quick process ?

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Old 05-08-2019, 05:14 AM
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As Jacky has already mention I would also remove the glass cleaning magnet if you do not use it, you can never be sure they are sealed 100%.

Has the problem come slowly or was is a quick process ?

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The problem did not arise quickly, 2-3 weeks.
After I replaced the 50% zaovit material.
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:17 AM
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Now it’s like starting up again.
And I meet such people among many who launch zeovit.
Initially, everything is good ... but after a while it comes rollback.
And after that, many people quit, the clearance is too strong.
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Old 05-08-2019, 08:39 AM
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Hello Bob677, don't be discouraged, there must be a reason for anything, try to explore / doubt carefully, any possible factors

We are far away, just like I can only try to figure out everything from the picture or your plan.

Just like me, the original Dinos problem has been bothering me for a long time, knocking me down.

I also tried to exclude/check a lot of factors, really many

I believe you can do it

At this time, "coral becomes black"
Then we can think about what causes
Then I offer my thoughts, because the pictures I can only guess
1.Glass cleaning brush
2. Is the ZeoVit flow correct, what brand/quantity/method of activated carbon is used, and some corals seem to have a bad organizational structure.
3. Is the quality of Ro/di really good? (double confirm)
4.Excessive addition of nutrients/or excessive imbalance of elements, resulting in blackening of corals
5. Is the amount of additive in my Zeo base product correct? Is the agent in the automatically added machine equipment good?
6. Before the coral changed, what changed, what was added, what changed?
7. Whether the phosphate has risen and whether the level of elements at all levels is normal
8.Do I use the sorbent and suddenly remove it?
9. Is there an ICP service in my area, maybe the test may be good?
10. Many can think a little bit about which part of the problem is wrong.

So what should I do for the current situation?
Try to change the water, do more cleaning, PO4 level, Zeo base add, ZeoVit flow view, etc.
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Hello Bob677, don't be discouraged, there must be a reason for anything, try to explore / doubt carefully, any possible factors

We are far away, just like I can only try to figure out everything from the picture or your plan.

Just like me, the original Dinos problem has been bothering me for a long time, knocking me down.

I also tried to exclude/check a lot of factors, really many

I believe you can do it

At this time, "coral becomes black"
Then we can think about what causes
Then I offer my thoughts, because the pictures I can only guess
1.Glass cleaning brush
2. Is the ZeoVit flow correct, what brand/quantity/method of activated carbon is used, and some corals seem to have a bad organizational structure.
3. Is the quality of Ro/di really good? (double confirm)
4.Excessive addition of nutrients/or excessive imbalance of elements, resulting in blackening of corals
5. Is the amount of additive in my Zeo base product correct? Is the agent in the automatically added machine equipment good?
6. Before the coral changed, what changed, what was added, what changed?
7. Whether the phosphate has risen and whether the level of elements at all levels is normal
8.Do I use the sorbent and suddenly remove it?
9. Is there an ICP service in my area, maybe the test may be good?
10. Many can think a little bit about which part of the problem is wrong.

So what should I do for the current situation?
Try to change the water, do more cleaning, PO4 level, Zeo base add, ZeoVit flow view, etc.
Thanks for the support.
Answer for each item.
1. Brush removed.
2. I can not say correctly or not. On the recommendation of the duct 140l hour. Material Zovt zyuht 350 ml.
coal too KZ zyuht, salt Bio Reef KZ
3. RO \ DI is fine. 000
4. No - no fish, - no feeding.
5. Mg -1320 Ca- 490 KH - 8.6
6. Added Extra Pohl, CV
7. I can say with confidence that I do not have cyano and dino. Small diatom bloom
At the moment I dose every day - sponge 2 drops, zeostart 2 drops, zeobak 1 drop
Water change 5l once a week.
PO 4 - 000 NO 3 -000
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Old 05-09-2019, 04:51 AM
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A concept is shared with you (perhaps you already know), coral first passes the growth conditions, it can have the next step

I reviewed your thread, I think it may be the dose of Xtra. What is the dose of Xtra during the darkening of the coral?

Usually, Xtra - 1ml / 100L / 25 US gallons, twice a week, can be seen from this dose to observe the appearance of the coral

However maybe your PO4=0. You added more
PO4=0 This is basic, coral is a great indicator

Understanding the correct ZeoVit reactor is also a very important thing.
It’s related
Stable and appropriate continuous flow reduces nutrient/polyp growth/coral tissue health/natural decolorizer/organic removal/clear water, etc.

Keep all water quality parameters, including potassium, as stable as possible within the recommended level of the guidelines
Good balance lighting
Zeo base product addition
Adding nutrients to products other than completely stopped

350 ml of ZeoVit material, a constant water flow of about 140 liters per hour through the reactor. it should be OK

Use Zeo's activated carbon

Zeo Bac 2 drops, twice a week
Zeo Start 0.15ml x2, per day, (total 0.3ml a day)
Zeo Sponge Power 2 drops every other day
Zeo CoralSnow 2ml twice a week

Good Ro/di water, 10% water change, weekly

2 weeks, see if things are getting better

Glass cleaning brush, you have removed
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Old 05-09-2019, 12:23 PM
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Jackie thanks for the help.
I will follow these recommendations.
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Old 05-14-2019, 05:23 AM
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Hey. I follow the recommendations, but the corals gradually lose their color and become very light, there are practically no polyps. Keep watching.
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Its hard to say what its doing now, is there a chance to give pictures?
How is the NP level?
What kind of potassium level?
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:13 AM
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Here is a photo express.
The level of potassium nitrate phosphate is also today.
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Old 05-14-2019, 10:53 AM
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Thank you for the picture, I always use my mobile phone to read, so I don’t see it very well (sorry), but the coral does seem to be better than the correct one. What do you think?

Can you share with us what factors do you think, glass brush? Xtra dose is too large?

some thoughts -
It may be the relationship of the picture, I think the coral tissue is a little thicker, but it seems to be better than the previous state.

As long as the coral is healthy and continues to get better, then I don't think it's too much to change, and the use of Zeo's basic knowledge is added, as well as the hourly flow rate of the ZeoVit reactor, 5-10% water change per week, balanced lighting, and water quality parameters. Stability (including potassium), I believe that corals will become more different

So have you replaced the first ZeoVit?
Are corals healthy?
Did the sands disappear? From the current picture, I would also suggest you use CoralSnow, I believe it will help everything.

Keeping everything stable, malnourished water, corals will grow better and better

Because I don't fully understand your tank, I believe that these are the same rules.


This is the recommended guide for water parameters
Kh 6.5~7.5
Ca 400~420
Mg 1250~1300
K+~380-400

If it is possible to detect if the salinity is within the proper stability range, Kh seems to be a bit high (not a serious problem), and slow (natural consumption) keeps these parameters recommended in the guidelines, including potassium.

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Do you have a chance to cross check salinity with a different, accurate instrument other than a refractometer like a electronic meter for example ?

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