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Old 07-25-2019, 07:56 PM
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Organic:
In general, excessive use of organic matter can lead to various adverse effects such as algae nuisance, cyanide, bacterial reproduction, etc.

Try to restore to the regular Zeo base dose frequency
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:08 AM
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Jakcy,

I didn't dose anything before it is happened - just basics.
Ok. I will dose doubble amout of CoralSnow then 8ml instead of 4ml - every day
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Peter does the brown stuff disappear while the dark period growing back quick if lights are switched on in the morning ?

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Old 07-26-2019, 04:29 AM
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Peter does the brown stuff disappear while the dark period growing back quick if lights are switched on in the morning ?

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G. last night i checked and looks like lot of stuff disappear when light are off, but not everything.
What it can be?
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Old 07-26-2019, 04:43 AM
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It doesn't look good, if they are Dinos, you can try turning off the lights for 3 days and completely obscuring the tank with black cloth. In addition, can you post a good photo of the main display system and sump?
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Old 07-26-2019, 11:37 AM
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It doesn't look good, if they are Dinos, you can try turning off the lights for 3 days and completely obscuring the tank with black cloth. In addition, can you post a good photo of the main display system and sump?
Blackout started today at 5:00 pm GMT

Pictures of my tank
https://imgur.com/7y4mCUv

Sump
https://imgur.com/HSnrEOj

Additional photo
https://imgur.com/OM29qb0

Blackout
https://imgur.com/iOHRUXC

Should I still dose coral snow?
I hope nothing happen to corals.
I will be feeding without lights too.

Should I get UV for this period of blackout too?
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Old 07-26-2019, 12:37 PM
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Thank you, picture

CoralSnow can be added without problems, but it may not help Dino exactly, but for overall improvement, I think it is ok

Let me talk about my feelings about pictures.
The first picture, it feels very blue, and the balanced light is closer to malnourished water. I can't give you a definite suggestion about the lighting. Those brown things are indeed covered with sand and rocks.

The second sump picture, which may be the relationship of lights, looks a bit yellow. Maybe some hoses leaching certain substances cause dino problems. I can't really give you a clear indication of which hoses, and I can only guess. So what is the source of the dry rock of the main display system? What makes me wonder is that most of the dry rock is usually used, and there are almost no phenomena on the rock.

The third picture, the overall look gives me the feeling of "stress", but I can't figure out exactly what causes the source of "stress". The part on the rock, the toothbrush is your good helper, as clean as possible.

The fourth picture, I hope things can help

Whether the source water passes through Ro/di, and the last channel is a resin material. What kind of resin source is it?

Did you find out if the situation worsened when the water was changed?

When you change the water, what kind of container is used, can you have a good picture?

Sump, skimmer and near the reactor What is that, pure ocean block? (I can't always see the phone clearly.)

Let's try to turn off the lights first and see how things develop. UV is really not recommended.
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Old 07-26-2019, 01:49 PM
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I can't do any more pictures now, due to blackout.
I'm using Radion G4 Pro with preset schedule by ecotech.

What do you mean by malnourished water? Water parameters are not to bad, especialy for a new tank.

Tank light is yellow as I got there just cheap setup.

Hose - I got only 1 flexible hose for return. Rest of pipes are standard Red See and they were cleaned after I drain down my old system. Replacing pipe shoudn't be a problem, I get new flexible hose tomorrow.

Stres of a corals is due to this dino I think. This is a picture how my tank looks like 23 of June 2019:

https://imgur.com/eApECmK

I'm producing water my self, TDS showing 0. When I got reading of 1, I'm replacing DI Resin. I'm using Purolite MB400 Mixed Bed Resin (Premium Grade 60% anion & 40% cation Resin)
https://trademarkaquatics.co.uk/prod...n-2-litre-tub/

I have change water last night when light was off. I use "fresh" RODI water with 0 TDS.
For mixing I'm using Red Sea Pro bucket.
This morning my wife said it was nice and almost clean, but after when she return from a shop, brown algae back.

At the back of my sump is a Marine Pure Block. This is nothing else, like a lots of rocks.

Skimmer is set for Wet skimming. I also run 2 powerheads in a sump. I change flos every day now, and before I put in, I wil rinse with RODI. I used Red See socks but I had to replace them every day, so for now one I use floss.

I do 3 or 4 days blackout and see how things develop as you said.
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Old 07-26-2019, 09:24 PM
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"Mix I use the Red Sea Pro bucket."

Do not use this, I suggest you change the way

If this is a problem, it should gradually lead back to the right path. With the light off, the container is replaced with a silicone bucket. In 10 days, do 3 times 20% water change and refresh in a balanced manner.

Still maintaining the addition of Zeo's basic products

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Hi Peter, my guess is also Dinoflagellate, you can continue to dose the Snow/Bac once daily. Otherwise just dose ZeoStart as usual. Lets see if you are able to get rid of them, keep my fingers crossed.

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Old 07-27-2019, 03:56 AM
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"Mix I use the Red Sea Pro bucket."

Do not use this, I suggest you change the way

If this is a problem, it should gradually lead back to the right path. With the light off, the container is replaced with a silicone bucket. In 10 days, do 3 times 20% water change and refresh in a balanced manner.

Still maintaining the addition of Zeo's basic products
Jacky,
Could you show me an example of silicone bucket I can use dor mixing?
As far as I know people using this jerry cans to hold RODI and mixed water
https://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/1589878...h-tap-15898786

Any way if you can show me silicone 20L bucket I can mix in will be nice.
Why Red See salt bucket is not good? Or you mean, plastic Must be as food safe grade?
Is this be ok? https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/White-33-Li...d=262976638503


G. I will start use Snow with Bac daily. I will mix them together.

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Old 07-27-2019, 07:11 AM
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I can't tell you why the bucket is not good. Maybe the material of the material is in contact with seawater, which may cause some chemical plasticization changes (I don't know). This information and valuable experience is what I learned and touched here, so I can give you advice and help you. I can't say that I am completely correct, I will give you a little different advice.

Your question is down to me, choose what kind of container, this may ask G.Alexander.
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Old 07-27-2019, 07:15 AM
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Hi Peter, my guess is also Dinoflagellate, you can continue to dose the Snow/Bac once daily. Otherwise just dose ZeoStart as usual. Lets see if you are able to get rid of them, keep my fingers crossed.

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Excuse me, G, I often see "keep my fingers crossed", what does it mean, can you explain it in another way, thank you
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Old 07-27-2019, 10:55 PM
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Excuse me, G, I often see "keep my fingers crossed", what does it mean, can you explain it in another way, thank you
Hello Jacky, some explanation over here:

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com...ingers+Crossed

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Old 07-27-2019, 11:12 PM
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Hello Jacky, some explanation over here:

https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com...ingers+Crossed

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Thank you, I read the link.
I understand the meaning.
Keep my fingers crossed
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