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Old 05-09-2017, 03:26 PM
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Default Dino help for long term KZ user

Hi all as the title says I am real need of suggestions on how to rid my tank of Dino.

I have unfortunately had Dino enter my tank from an external source (on coral base) and the plague is getting so bad I'm close to quitting the tank. For the past three months I have tried everything I could read online as well as people's suggestion and nothing's working.

I purchased a microscope and I am 100% sure based on Alex posted video, it's Dino.
I have also sent three water test over this time of the outbreak to FM Icp lab and I am certain my water prams are all in check. Something in the tank is feeding the bloom and I'm trying to work out what.

My corals have completely stopped their intake of both calcium and alk for the past few months so had a rise in dkh until I switch Valium reactor off and its now down to 7.5

Po. 0.03, nitrate 1, ph 8.19, DKH 7.5, MG 1315, Ca 439

I have tried water changes every day but 12 hours its back, I have tied lights out for three days at a time 3x, but back in 12 hours, I have tried 1 week of the mentioned bacteria compition, zeoback, biomate, cyano, zeozym, food 7 heated for 12 hours twice a day, but aggressively back in 12 hours - think the food 7 is making accelerating the growth.

Recommended by lfs - remove autotabs and start 3 - nothing changed. They also said this Dino was caused from me dosing coral vitalizer ? Not sure why
Told me to try only dosing amino acids - this also seem the increase the plague. 9 your thoughts on this would be interesting)

I have also tried 21 days dino x didn't touch it - increasing PH 8.3 didn't touch it

Please please help me as I just don't know what to do.

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Old 05-09-2017, 03:30 PM
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The pictures show the extent of the algea that's all over my corals, sand and rock. The second picture is placing the filter sock I symphony the tank every day into some water as you can see this stuff is like my tanks got a cold and smell very saltwater/fishy.

One more thing to add, I'm using "real reef "branching rock in this second tank if that helps.

Please help to much money on Aussie's sps to see my tank in this state
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Old 05-09-2017, 03:32 PM
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From those pictures it dosen't look like dinos to me. But Im no expert. If the blackouts dont work I dont think its dinos. What ever the hell it is it looks more like detritis. I've had dinos before but they where more yellow in colour
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Old 05-09-2017, 03:45 PM
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It's not detritus I'm cleaning the sand bed daily, it looks darker in the pics as it was in the. Bucket for a few hours.

Under the micro scope there look like little seeds flying around all over the place.

This stuff is full of bubbles by 4pm in the afternoon. It's worth also saying I have removed the greens and reds from leds (gen 4 radions) tried going back to t5

Aghhhhhhhhh
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Might there be any kind of plastics / material leaching softeners or other harmful substances ? Can you please post a full tank shot and a picture of your sump ?

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Old 05-10-2017, 10:44 AM
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Let's hope not as I'm only using official KZ products, my tanks a red sea reefer 525

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Old 05-10-2017, 10:51 AM
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Sump running KZ zeoreactor, 500lph 1.2l stones, KZ skimmer - 5kg real reef rubble rock - no filter socks as I have the downpipe going straight into a roller Matt. KZ calcium reactor not on as corals stopped uptake of alk and calc.

The aquascape is made up of !00% of beaching real reef rock glued with echotec glue and bobs quick setting spray

The picture of the tank was last week were I have remove 80% of the corals as the algea is growing all over them and killing them so I have moved to a quartine system to hopefully save them.

Not sure what your expecting to be leaching but the algea shown above has come into my tank from a lfs who had the issue before I knew and I purchased corals from them and now I have this..

Any ideas
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Old 05-10-2017, 10:52 AM
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Also worth a mention that the pic was taken when I was swapping t5 unit back from leds' but 2 bulbs not working so wanted to see if it was enough par output
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Thank you can you tell me something more about “bobs quick setting spray” ?

So if I get it correct the coral branches are live rock and you have just glued them together ?

Can you please also tell me how long the tank has been running ?

As you mention you removed corals to keep them at a different system does this stuff grow there also on the rocks which hold the corals also

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Old 05-11-2017, 03:27 PM
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Hi G - Thanks for your patience on this matter.

The coral branches are from a company called RealReef who make rock for reef environments shttp://realreefrock.com I also have around 15kg of this rock as rubble in the sump for extra filtration.

The Glue I used was Ecotech's coral glue and epoxy as well as Bob Smith industries insta set that just speeds up the curing process of coral glue and is reef safe. I have used this for many years on all my tanks so I am not worried abiut the glue/ BSI

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Regarding all the corals I have in the holding tank I am using new salt mixed every day and yes the algea is still on them but i'm trying to keep them without light which seems to keep the algae at bay for a while
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Old 05-11-2017, 03:30 PM
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tanks been running for 2 years with ULNs via KZ with zero issues until this algae found a way into my tank
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How long have you had the realreef rocks in your tank?

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Old 05-11-2017, 04:54 PM
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Not long a few months before the algae outbreak
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Old 05-11-2017, 04:55 PM
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I changed over to create more flow as I had aged live rock from my other reef but it was to big for this second tank
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