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Old 02-27-2017, 03:00 AM
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It is necessary to know what to do but therefore you need to know what it is so I would agree to your idea, would make it easier for everyone.

From my experience none of the products does have a direct impact (positive or negative) to Dinoflagellate so alternative treatments would be necessary.

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Well, after a LOT of work, and 6 days of clean up I can say I removed most of the dinoflagellates.


What I did:
1-3 days of blackout
2-Rise the pH from 7.9 to 8.3 (and still need to rise it to 8.4-8.5) with Kalk
3-Lot and lots of siphoning, from rocks, walls and sand
4-Removed 3/4 parts of sand
5-Inmediately stopped dosing ZeoStart3
6-Added some really good Ac.Carbon to the tank filter.


What I can say is, this is 90% work of removing by hand and siphon!!!
Dinos seems to stop reproducing with the lack of light and high pH, that was really noticeable on my tank.
I know there is still a lot of work to do, however now I know how to stop them, my tank was completely brown last week with dinos all over the sand, rocks and walls, and this is how it looks like today:





My Astreas did not die, not sure why, may be because the types of dinos I have, they are still helping, fighting them, eating a lot of Dinos and algae every day.
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Well, after a LOT of work, and 6 days of clean up I can say I removed most of the dinoflagellates.


What I did:
1-3 days of blackout
2-Rise the pH from 7.9 to 8.3 (and still need to rise it to 8.4-8.5) with Kalk
3-Lot and lots of siphoning, from rocks, walls and sand
4-Removed 3/4 parts of sand
5-Inmediately stopped dosing ZeoStart3
6-Added some really good Ac.Carbon to the tank filter.


What I can say is, this is 90% work of removing by hand and siphon!!!
Dinos seems to stop reproducing with the lack of light and high pH, that was really noticeable on my tank.
I know there is still a lot of work to do, however now I know how to stop them, my tank was completely brown last week with dinos all over the sand, rocks and walls, and this is how it looks like today:





My Astreas did not die, not sure why, may be because the types of dinos I have, they are still helping, fighting them, eating a lot of Dinos and algae every day.
So don't dinos feed from carbon. My guess is they love zeostart. If you stop dosing zeostart then what do you use to supplement?

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Thank you guys for all the help, and specially thanks to G. Alexander and Edmond, those links from above were really a good guideline for me to start fighting these guides.
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Took another sample and found spinning 'balls' - therefore will continue my fight.
Might do a sand removal next!
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So don't dinos feed from carbon. My guess is they love zeostart. If you stop dosing zeostart then what do you use to supplement?

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Just zeobak, my NO3 started to go up again...not sure if it is because the lack of zeostart or because a great death of dinos on my system, or..the lack of water changes or the sand removal.
Or the combination of the four of them.

It went from 2ppm to 5ppm.

I will try to have no3 under control, If I can't I will slowly start dosing zeostart again and see what happens with the dinos.
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So I just did 4 days lights out, even had a moving blanket over top of the tank so NO light went in. Also changed zeolite. For my 120, I hope this fixed the dinos but I'll let you know after light come on

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Here is a video of before I started fighting it.
https://youtu.be/pAJH3j8-UK0
Also forgot to add that durri g the black out period I was dosing 12ml of peroxide 2x daily. 3ml zeostart 2x daily and 5 drops zeobak the last 3 days (zeolite exchange). Please advise

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Just following up. Any success?
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Just following up. Any success?
I moved houses. Removed most of my sand. Added another bag of live sand. I noticed a little bit of dinos about 2 weeks ago. Last week I went on vacation. When I came back, my alk dropped, and I had green algae on the glass with a bunch of pods.
I think having po4 and no3 are a good thing. We shall see.

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UPDATE- now that my tank has been re-established for 2 months, I've done a few water changes. Just did a 30g change 4 days ago. I'm noticing my dinos coming back slowly. I've replaced .5L of zeolites (dosing 6 drops of zeobak for 10 days), dose .3ml of zeostart 2x daily. 5 drops of Sponge power daily, and added 5 drops of bio-mate to the routine. alk is stable at 8.3, mag 1360, ca 430. temp 80, sg 1.026.
@Alexander-What zeo products can i dise to add phosphate and nitrate.
i know it seems counter productive, but many threads on R2R have shown progress of other algae competing with dinos when po4 is 0.10ppm and no3- 5ppm. I'd like to try maybe stopping the zeolite reactor and bringing up the po4 and no3 levels. Once algae is growing and dinos are gone, then I'll turn reactor back on to lower back down to ULNS. Please give me your opinion Alexander.


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Difficult to say but I personally think there is a reason while this kind of stuff is growing. I have seen this in my old tank, once the problem was fixed they have gone within a couple of days while I have tried close to 6 month doing everything to get rid of them. In my case it just was a stupid small piece of material leaching any kind of substances.

If you like to increase nutrients slowly it might be the best to slow down the reactor flow to a minimum or to reduce the material while also adopting the reactor flow. It will take some time but I am not sure if that will be helpful.

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It is hard to tell what is causing this. And I am running out of options. There's threads over on Reef2Reef thousands of pages long of people trying to figure out how to get rid of dinos. What exactly was leaching into your tank?

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I do not have a idea what it was any kind of substance from a hose which was not 100% pure silicone.

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