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Old 03-24-2019, 02:14 PM
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Hey, I switch to the zeovit method, I have already bought everything for it. My full sps tank has crashed and I have a few cuttings left. in terms of fish, I still use a school of 4 chromis viridis and a Siganus Vulpinus. The nitrate content is 15 ppm and phosphate is 34 ppm (0.104)
Ca 460
kh 7.4
Mg 1380
K 390

I want to start with this schedule;
0.4 liters of ZEOvit per 800 Water flow 250 liters per hour

3 drops of Zeobak daily for 2 weeks. Then 3 drops two to three times per week until the ZEOvit replacement. After the first replacement of the ZEOvit
Every other day 3 drop of net water volume for 2 weeks. Then 3 drops 2 to 3 times a week

Zeostart3 0.25 ml per day Sponge power 3 drops every day.

2 x per week 3ml Coralsnow Plus for reducing phosphate.


What do you think about this?




2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
300

3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
No

4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
No

5. Are you using Ozone
No
6. Are you using UV
No
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)

Bubble king mini 200

8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
Now its high,normally not
0,104 po4
15 no3

9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
460 Ca
7,4 Alk
1380 Mg

10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
Sand bed

11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
Ati hybrid 6x39 2x75 watt led

12. What corals do you keep
Sps
Few Frags at this moment

13. Tissue color (light or dark)
dark

14. How long has the tank been running
3 years

15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
Perfection

16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
No
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
Real reef rock, 6 months after rescape
18. Any present problems
High nitrate, high phosphate

19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
Little bit of green cyano algae

20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
Salifert Kh,Ca,Mg
Hanna ulr 336
Red sea pro No3
All up to date

21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
No

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
Salinity 34 ppt
25,2 celsius

23. Which salt brand do you use
KZ Reefers best salt


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Old 03-25-2019, 02:35 AM
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Hi Dutch010



First of all I would recommend to download the dosing guide from:

http://www.korallen-zucht.de/files/z..._english-1.pdf

It contains a lot of useful information and will be helpful to get a feeling for the dosage.

First start with the basics products to decrease nutrients:

1. Place 0.6 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 240 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.25 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 3 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 x weekly dosage of 3 drops each. Dose 0.25 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on.

4. As you already own SpongePower you can dose 3 drops every other day additional. CoralSnow Plus can be dosed also if you like to as you have planned.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

Not sure how deep your sand bed is but usually it works very well if the sand bed has a depth of 3 – 5 cm.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

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Old 03-26-2019, 07:07 AM
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If I weigh 1 bag of 1L zeolite, it is 1280 grams. 0.6L corresponds to 768 grams. If I put that in a measuring cup I get to 0.8. Do I have to keep 0.6 of the measuring cup or my calculation?

And need i shake it already?

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Old 03-26-2019, 08:15 AM
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If you can recommend different sizes of ZeoVit materials, a little more, a little less, it doesn't matter.

And make sure that the ZeoVit material is soaked into the water when the reactor is turned off.
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Old 03-27-2019, 02:22 AM
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The material is a natural material so the weight can differ. If you like to be 100% sure it is the best to use the volume or you do weight each bag. Just try to mix the different sizes as good as possible.

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Old 04-14-2019, 03:26 AM
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It has been about 3 weeks since the last post. It goes well, but I am really bothered by red cyano. Used cyanoclean since yesterday in combination with coral snow plus. No3 has finally fallen to 0.25 and po4 is 0.034. Last Friday, picked up the corals that were in someone else's tank, there are not many more, but luckily there is something.
The corals are all still dark and hardly PE, except for the pink stylo because it is new. They have had a major blow so it will take some time before the color returns.

The 14 day cycle is now a week past and continue with the prescribed schedule. Here a few more photos of the algae still there and the cyano

And every tip is welcome !!

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Old 04-14-2019, 04:51 AM
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Hello Dutch010. What is your current full dose, in addition to Zeo products, do you add other products?

Since the last time, 2 weeks have passed, is the reactor still in the 3hr phase?
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Old 04-14-2019, 05:11 AM
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I actually forgot the 3-hour cycle, the zeovit flows 24 hours a day at 300 liters per hour. Dosage;
2x a week 3 drops of Zeobak
Daily 2x 0.25 Zs3
Every other day Sp 3 drops
1x per week Coral Snow plus

Next week is week 4, then I have to change the zeovit i guess.



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Old 04-14-2019, 05:59 AM
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Hello Dutch010, the dose is very good, you do a great job

If you can, you can try to drop Bac, Start3, into front of the reactor inlet.

You need a more cleaning
Get some functional animals to help

Do more siphon sand beds, brush the algae on the substrate, use a plastic scraper to scrape off any algae on the backing plate

Adjust the Skimmer to wet, keep it clean and export as much as possible. Add water with salt and change water 5-10% per week.

Try to adjust/increase the power head, more and more abundant water flow, let more water flow

The human way to do more "clean" will be more efficient, with the current Zeo Foundation
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Old 04-14-2019, 06:08 AM
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Hello Dutch010, the dose is very good, you do a great job

If you can, you can try to drop Bac, Start3, into front of the reactor inlet.

You need a more cleaning
Get some functional animals to help

What kind of animale do jou suggest?

Do more siphon sand beds, brush the algae on the substrate, use a plastic scraper to scrape off any algae on the backing plate

What donyou mean with siphon sans beds?

Adjust the Skimmer to wet, keep it clean and export as much as possible. Add water with salt and change water 5-10% per week.

Try to adjust/increase the power head, more and more abundant water flow, let more water flow

The human way to do more "clean" will be more efficient, with the current Zeo Foundation


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Old 04-14-2019, 06:12 AM
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You need a more cleaning

Get some functional animals to help

What do you suggest for animals?

Do more siphon sand beds

What do you mean with that?

Adjust the Skimmer to wet, keep it clean and export as much as possible. Add water with salt and change water 5-10% per week.

Try to adjust/increase the power head, more and more abundant water flow, let more water flow

I got 2 jeboa rw8 full speed, each ons 8000 per hour, and one rw4 for flow on the sandbed. I think thats a lot lol

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Old 04-14-2019, 07:14 AM
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Like pictures of these functional animals

Sorry, I always misinterpret it, meaning - do more siphoning on the sand bed yourself, scrape the algae on the "separator", and use a toothbrush to remove the algae from the Live rock.

At the far left of the picture, x1 is fine, they seem to be easy to attack each other (maybe)
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Old 04-14-2019, 09:11 AM
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Siphon, toothbrush, plastic scraper (do more cleaning)
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Old 04-19-2019, 04:35 AM
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The material is a natural material so the weight can differ. If you like to be 100% sure it is the best to use the volume or you do weight each bag. Just try to mix the different sizes as good as possible.

G.Alexander
This weekend I'm going to do the first change with the zeovit, the dosage is going well, the flow is 350 L per hour 24/7. Nitrate is not measurable and phosphate has risen to 0.07 because I am now completely finished with rowaphos. Does that mean that the zeovit cannot keep the phosphate content low?

Alkalinity drops 0.5 a day and I keep that manually. The rest also remains stable thanks to the weekly water change of 10%

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Old 04-19-2019, 08:07 AM
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Leave the zeolite in the filter for 4 weeks until you replace it for the first time. This is the first replacement interval, others may be extended to 6-8 weeks
First replacement (animal coral) 50% ZeoVit

Every time you change ZeoVit material, Zeo bac 3 drops, do 10 days

About 2 weeks (10 days after Zeo Bac), if the coral is healthy, switch the continuous flow, the water flow is about 240 liters per hour.

0.25 liters of activated carbon is placed in the filter bag and placed in a passive flow in the oil sump, replaced every 30 days

After switching continuous traffic
Zeo Bac 3 drops, 2~3 times a week
Zeo Start3 0.25ml x2 per day
Zeo Sponge Power 3 drops every other day

Adjust your Skimmer to get wet, keep it clean and export as much as possible. Add water with salt and change water 5-10% per week.

Kh 6.5~7.5
Ca 400~420
Mg 1250~1300
K+~380-400
With low malnutrition water quality, maintain the appropriate level of stability / stability, including potassium

This is a good opportunity to work with Zeo Coral Snow 6ml when you are running ZeoBac x10 days.
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