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Old 09-22-2019, 09:53 PM
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Hello Zeo-people

Happy to be here. Pretty new reefer here and I have decided to move to Zeovit.

I intend to post many details about the tank but first I wanted to make sure it was ok to do so in this section

Also, I was wondering if there was some info someone could point me to on changing a tank to zeovit that has already been cycled?

I see lots of info for new tanks but not found much on call it a change over from traditional to zeovit

Any links appreciated
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:10 PM
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Also I might add, this is my first tank
Started it with Red Sea reef mature kit
Have a considerable investment with the best of the equipment

1. Total water volume of the entire system (including oil sump, etc.) - US gallons / imperial gallons / liters

120 gallons Red Sea reefer 450
(2) mp40’s
Red Sea rsk 600
Vectors M1
Neptune apex and trident
Kessil a360x x 2 but have 3rd in box
Auto water change system 1.5 gallons / day



2. Water purification (including oil sump, etc.) - US gallons / imperial gallons / liters

4 stage RODI system / 100 gallon RODI top off reserve 100 gallon salt tank
Running continuous water change 1.5 gallon per day plumbed into the walls of my home


3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technology?
No

You are using the PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
No

Are you using ozone?
No

Are you using ultraviolet light?
No

7. What skimmers do you use (model, rated water)
Red Sea rsk600

8. What is your actual PO4 and NO3 level?
No3 = 10 po4 = .2

9. What is your actual Ca, Alk and Mg content?
Have a Neptune trident testing 4 times a day. 8.03 ,420,1350

10. What filtering method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
I had a five for a week but removed it in preparation for zeovit. It really had not taken effect yet. It was only installed a week prior to deciding on zeovit nd was only 6 gallon fuge

11. Type of lamp (watt, color temperature, how big, etc.)
Kessil a360x 9 hours a day 4 hours at 80% the rest is ramp time

12 What coral do you keep?
Just 7 small frags nothing else in the tank. Few sps , candy cane Zoa one BTA , small torch frag

13. Organize the color (light or dark)
?
14. How long has the tank been running?
4 months

15. Why use the ZEOvit system?
I am looking for a tried a true method without hopping from technology to technology
I want a method I can stick with long term

16. Any supplemental dose (type, quantity, cause, etc.)
I am setup for dosing 4 pumps not currently in use
A single pump is doing 40 ml of kalkwasser a day with little effect

17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
85 pounds

18. Any existing issues
I got my first monti cap ever in my life, dipped and QT and got a monti nudi in the tank
Have since removed all monti and got a yellow wrasse. Have not seen one in several weeks. I only had one monti frag so hoping I’m starving them out. Also have occasional hydroids and got a fish with flukes which I cured with prazipro
Not off to the greatest start

19. Description of the problem (organizational loss tips, tissue loss basis, algae, algae, etc.)
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
Neptune trident / Hannah / apex

21. Current dose, quantity and interval (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
None yet

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temperature, etc.)
79.5 , 7.9 pH , 34.4 salt 430 or more orp

23. Which salt brand do you use?
Red Sea blue bucket but planning to switch to tropic Marin
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Old 09-22-2019, 11:57 PM
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Hi Scott



Basically it is possible to transfer a system to ZeoVit without a problem if the tank is already running / cycled. I have calculated the net water volume of your system to 95 US gallons which is the base of the dosing calculation:

I would recommend you to start as follows::

1. Place 0.9 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 95 US gallons per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.35 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 4 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 4 drops. Dose 0.35 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

I so not recommend you to use kalkwasser: https://www.zeovit.com/forums/showpo...34&postcount=5

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

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Old 09-23-2019, 02:01 PM
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Is there any issue starting the system if there is some prazipro in the tank?
Its left over from taking care of a sick fish and slowly being cycled out with water changes
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Old 09-23-2019, 10:20 PM
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Is the zeovit forum really this slow or is it that the system is so perfect no one has issues with it
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Old 09-23-2019, 11:32 PM
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Is there any issue starting the system if there is some prazipro in the tank?
Its left over from taking care of a sick fish and slowly being cycled out with water changes
It would be better to get it out of the water before starting to use ZeoVit.

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Old 09-23-2019, 11:46 PM
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It would be better to get it out of the water before starting to use ZeoVit.

G.Alexander
Thanks!
My previous post was a joke
Hopefully you didnt find it offensive
Are you the owner of zeovit?
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:06 AM
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Is the zeovit forum really this slow or is it that the system is so perfect no one has issues with it
Hello Rscott. Sorry, I found your question a little earlier, but I never understood what "prazipro" is. I tried to search for it, but I couldn't match your question with my guess. So I can't say anything.
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Old 09-24-2019, 02:32 AM
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If I understand your question. This is my idea - because we don't know the ingredients it contains, and maybe have a positive change in bacteria and biology in the "treatment" situation. For example: long-term use of UV, antibiotics, etc. It's just that the "media" of action is different. In addition, my resources are limited, it seems to be used to treat flatworms? (maybe I understand the error), if tank has flatworm problem, then maybe consider Zeo flatworm stop may be good

a little thought and guess

If I understand the wrong question, please forgive me, sorry.
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Old 09-24-2019, 11:25 PM
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Hello Scott, thank you, no worry just want to say that patience is very important in our hobby

No I am not the forum owner, just try to support our members on a daily basis.

Good luck for your new project !

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Old 10-03-2019, 09:26 PM
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Good evening all!
Well i am happy to report after a series of large water changes I started my zeovit system up
However I had a question
I recently came across a thread on a different forum about Dino’s and how how bottomed out nutrients can cause major Dino problems

What does the zeovit system have to say about this?

I am proceeding as instructed above and I’m about 5 days into dosing as described above

I can’t seem to get
My reactor to run on a 3 hour period so it’s running 24/7 with 2 shake ups per day

Po4 at .08 down from .18
N04 around 5

Things seem to be well
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Old 10-03-2019, 10:55 PM
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We beat dinos with multiple blackouts.

Dinos are usually encountered in the beggining but after they don't show up as often.
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Old 10-04-2019, 03:49 AM
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Dino's problem, I don't think it has a certain correlation with nutrition, it seems to exist in the measurable nutrient tank (I am not a scientist, this is just my opinion, maybe I am wrong)

I really like Bugger's suggestion, try to turn off the light source for three days, maybe it can help solve the dino problem.

PO4 is gradually decreasing, it looks good

If you like, give us some clear sump pictures, maybe we can explore some clues.
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:10 AM
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There seems to be a lot of hate on zeovit because it’s blamed for major Dino problems
Is there anything I can do to prevent them?
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Old 10-04-2019, 09:25 AM
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not like this. Looking at it from another angle, can you tell me what system is not blamed on the main Dino problem? It seems that no system can speak out loud, using our system "never get the Dino problem." I am a Zeo user, and here I have encountered many other user systems to come here for help. Everyone also does their best to help and try to solve the problem.

We can try to turn off the light source for 3 days, completely obscuring the main display system and Sump with black cloth. Avoid any light entering. Some people are getting rid of the Dinos problem. You can try it out.

If you like, some clear sump pictures, maybe we can find some clues. My experience is not very good, I will try my best
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