zeovit.com EcoTech Marine LLC  

Go Back   zeovit.com > General Discussion Forums - International > General Discussion - English

General Discussion - English General Marine Aquaria Discussion with and without ZEOVit.

Active Threads
0 GIVEAWAY: Kamoer FX-STP WiFi Dosing Pump
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 1
Views: 222
0 bryopsis problem
Last Post: Meir
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 5
Views: 512
0 New Start
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 64
Views: 5,119
0 20% OFF Ecotech Radion G4 LED
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: 02-17-2020
Replies: 0
Views: 51
0 80gallon Tank Build with Luke
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: 02-17-2020
Replies: 41
Views: 48,604
0 Tank w.vreeswijk
Last Post: Hene Reda
Posted On: 02-17-2020
Replies: 411
Views: 110,548
0 Newbie - Where To Start
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: 02-15-2020
Replies: 40
Views: 2,362
0 Flatworm Stop & Polyclads
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: 02-15-2020
Replies: 1
Views: 104
0 15% OFF Valentines Day Sale + Check out the new PicoReef
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: 02-14-2020
Replies: 0
Views: 68
0 Phosphate and nitrogen
Last Post: ViRusDuck
Posted On: 02-14-2020
Replies: 7
Views: 489
More...
  #1  
Old 12-27-2019, 08:15 AM
Lostatsea Lostatsea 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Default Substrate or bare bottom

Hello, thank you in advance for your assistance. I am currently setting up a new aquarium I would like to run using the Zeovit system. I have read all the instructions and know it says to use a 2 inch deep sand bed however I would like to check that this is not out of date thinking as most places on the web are now saying bare bottom is much better for sps in the long run (brs etc). I can get the kz coral sand which is 3 to 5mm but am worried about it getting blown around or the detritus getting trapped. Thank you for the help in this matter, I am new to this system and all advice is really welcome. Lastly, which reactor do you think would be best, the Korallen Zucht easy lift magnetic (seems very expensive!) or the vertex RX-Z 1.5.
Many thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-27-2019, 01:07 PM
Lostatsea Lostatsea 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Default

I am still confused and no replies to help!! Everyone seems to be going bare bottom but is this okay for a ZEOVIT tank?? Can I just use siporax in the sump to take the place of the sand? Any feedback would be appreciated as I am waiting to set up the tank. Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-27-2019, 01:32 PM
ycnibrc's Avatar
ycnibrc ycnibrc 目前離線
Socal reef TOTM 11/2019
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Irvine, CA USA
Posts: 86
Default

I run a 1 sand bed and its fine. Its really up to your taste sand vs bare bottom but with sand you have mote surface area for bacteria to populate


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Socal Reef feature TOTM Nov 2019
GHL TOTM 2/2020

https://youtu.be/xqf77k14osA
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-27-2019, 07:54 PM
Yousef Yousef 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 36
Default

amazing tank i saw your live with reef dudes. nice information also i check your channel soo nice i hope you give us a video about what did you exactly does and how many bar you keep your light for your coral

Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-27-2019, 07:54 PM
Yousef Yousef 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Kuwait
Posts: 36
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by ycnibrc View Post
I run a 1 sand bed and its fine. Its really up to your taste sand vs bare bottom but with sand you have mote surface area for bacteria to populate


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

amazing tank i saw your live with reef dudes. nice information also i check your channel soo nice i hope you give us a video about what did you exactly does and how many bar you keep your light for your coral
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-27-2019, 07:56 PM
ycnibrc's Avatar
ycnibrc ycnibrc 目前離線
Socal reef TOTM 11/2019
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Irvine, CA USA
Posts: 86
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yousef View Post
amazing tank i saw your live with reef dudes. nice information also i check your channel soo nice i hope you give us a video about what did you exactly does and how many bar you keep your light for your coral





Thanks i have a build thread in zeovit member tank please go there. I dont want to talk about my tank in this thread :-)


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Socal Reef feature TOTM Nov 2019
GHL TOTM 2/2020

https://youtu.be/xqf77k14osA
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-27-2019, 11:51 PM
G.Alexander's Avatar
G.Alexander G.Alexander 目前離線
ZEOadmin
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 36,198
Default

From my experience a shallow sand bed does stabilize the biology massive, this is the reason why I would personally not run a bare bottom system but basically it can be done. The grain size should not be to small, a depth of 2 – 3 cm is working well.

G.Alexander
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-28-2019, 05:54 AM
Huntindawg Huntindawg 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Indiana
Posts: 38
Default

I am running two tanks on Zeovit with bare bottom. I have had no issues and would never go back. I can now have crazy flow without churning up sand and easy to keep clean. Bioblocks in the dumps though.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-28-2019, 10:26 AM
Lostatsea Lostatsea 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Dec 2019
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 12
Default

Hi thanks for the replies. Could I ask what bioblocks you are using. I was hoping to put an mp40 near the bottom to lift up any debris to the overflow. From what I have read so far it can take a few more months for bare bottom tanks to stabilise, however in the long run they are easier to maintain? Anyone swapped to/from bare bottom who can share there experience? I generally think I prefer the look of sand but in my last tank it was always being moved around and I had difficulty keeping it clean.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-30-2019, 03:59 AM
Mario_B Mario_B 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Nov 2019
Location: Croatia
Posts: 21
Default

hello there, I'm in the midst of the transition.. on my regulair water changes syphoned the sand away.. its been like tree weeks since last of it is out.

dont see no ill effect so far. Some algae on overflow and back glass but rockscape is ok for now, ,, no red slime either.. Next to sand removal I upgraded lighting as well so I cant really increased algal growth attribute to removal of sand alone..

In anycase I removed sand patiently, slowly.. bit by bit at water changes. It took me almost 2 months to get rid of it. All this time Im adding bacteria and carbon food for them. So far so good. It seems to work well for me.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-30-2019, 05:34 AM
Huntindawg Huntindawg 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Indiana
Posts: 38
Default

I don’t recall the name- maybe Brightwel? They are not the white ones that are suspect to leeching aluminum. I used to run sand bottom and prefer the look but did not like the sand blowing around or dealing with keeping the sand bed clean. When I decided to go without sand I did a full restart in zeovit.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:26 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7, Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright by ZeoVit.com