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Have you followed G.'s suggestion to change the water and did the coral TN problem be solved? Can you provide more clear pictures of tanks and corals?
Read the post i said i have change the water 10% 2 times a week. Soms picture's of the corals. All brown with no PE.
The TN has stopped.

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Old 02-24-2019, 06:10 PM
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Thank you for the picture, I am very happy to hear that the coral TN has stopped.

#2, G. has a detailed description, If you start from the system, stop using the Aquaforst product for you. I also recommend that you use a standard salt that does not contain probiotic ingredients.

Picture water looks foggy
ZeoVit quantity / usage, system conversion, whether 3 open 3 off
What kind of brand activated carbon, quantity / use
Currently only Zeo Bac, start3, Sponge power, other original additives should be gradually reduced, #2



It feels like ZeoVit is a problem?
Excessively fast activated carbon and different brands of activated carbon (with elements removed) may also cause coral PE to be poor.

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Hello Remi, can you please post a update of everything you dose also is there a special reason why you do not use the ZeoVit material already ?

Have you had polyp expansion before starting to dose the korallenzucht products ?

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Hello Remi, can you please post a update of everything you dose also is there a special reason why you do not use the ZeoVit material already ?

Have you had polyp expansion before starting to dose the korallenzucht products ?

G.Alexander
So I only used zeobak, zeostart and spongepower as we had previously discussed. Phosphate remains a bit stable and nitrate remains> 5. Although it was a day or 2 suddenly 1 to 2 ppm. As you said, I did 10% water change for 2 weeks with Reefers best salt.

I had a lot of PE, until 2 months back when it went bad with the tank. Although the icp test did not show anything strange at the tiThe reason I do not use zeo stones is that it did not work well with my tank. Imbalance with phosphate and nitrate, and also TN.
me. I now only use the trace elements of aquaforest doses (strontium, barium, iodine, fluorine)

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
300

2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
300

3. Are you using CaCO2 reactor or other technique
Not this moment , yes Dastaco T1

4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
No

5. Are you using Ozone
No
6. Are you using UV
No
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
Bubble king mini 200

8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
Now its high,normally not
Po4 0,018
>5 no3

9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
440 Ca
7,4 Alk
1360 Mg

10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
Since 2 weeks sand,therefore bare bottom

11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
Ati hybrid 6x39 2x75 watt led

12. What corals do you keep
Sps

13. Tissue color (light or dark)
medium till dark

14. How long has the tank been running
3 years
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
Try to get the perfect tank

16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
Aquaforest a en c
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
25 kg rrr
18. Any present problems
High nitraat, dark colours and no PE

19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)
Little bit of green cyano algae

20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
Salifert Kh,Ca,Mg
Hanna ulr 336
Red sea pro No3
All up to date

21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
Zeobak daily 3 drops
Zeostart 0,26 2 times a day
Spongepower daily 3 drops

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
Salinity 35 ppt
25,2 celsius

23. Which salt brand do you use
KZ Reefers best salt
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Old 02-27-2019, 05:57 AM
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Thank you for the details. Difficult to say over the distance what I going wrong as there are so many possibilities. Can you please post a full tank shot of your tank and a picture of your sump ?

Do you remember any changes you have done a couple of weeks before the problem has started ? Have you installed anything new on the tank ?

Please also post the actual K+ level.

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Thank you for the details. Difficult to say over the distance what I going wrong as there are so many possibilities. Can you please post a full tank shot of your tank and a picture of your sump ?

Do you remember any changes you have done a couple of weeks before the problem has started ? Have you installed anything new on the tank ?

Please also post the actual K+ level.

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Hi,
As far as I know, I have not made any changes. The potassium content I do not know, I only measure with an icp test. 2 months ago it was 390 ppm with the last test. So it will not be very different.

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*7. What skimmers do you use (model, rated water)
Bubble King Mini 200

* 2 months ago, the last test was 390 ppm

Recommended to get a potassium test kit




Maybe some plastic hoses inside Sump may leach softeners or other chemicals.
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I would also replace the green hoses with silicon hoses first to see if that makes any difference. If they cause issues you should quick see a improvement after replacing them.

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I would also replace the green hoses with silicon hoses first to see if that makes any difference. If they cause issues you should quick see a improvement after replacing them.

G.Alexander
I will replace the hoses, the light green is from sillicone. The dark green is a standard hose from Eheim. I will do another icp test next week.

questions that I want to know;
Do I have to go on with daily zeebak and start again or now weekly?

How do I lower my nitrate further?

Now just change 10% per week again?

Can I start with the zeostenen so that I can start with full zeo?

Gr. Remi

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I tried to answer you , May not be very correct

Do I have to continue daily zeebak and start over or now once a week?
( Suggest Zeo Bac 2~3 times a week , Zeo Start3 0.1ml=25 US gallons, daily x 2 )

How to further reduce nitrate?
( From the basic products, they are Zeo Bac, start3, Sponge power, ZeoVit materials, It’s also interesting to know the flow of the ZeoVit reactor.)

Now change 10% every week again?
( First confirm that the water quality of Ro is good. Some inferior machines. Export water quality. Contains SI. In the picture, it's good to refresh the elements in a balanced way. If you like to get Zeo Coral Snow, maybe it's a good choice.)

Can I start with zeostenen so that I can start with the full zeo?
( I don't know the meaning of "zeostenen", of course, starting with the complete Zeo system.)

#2, G.Alexander teacher, provides a perfect method

G.Alexander said, I will also replace the green hose with a silicone hose to see if there is any difference. If they cause problems, you should see improvements quickly after replacement
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I tried to answer you , May not be very correct

Do I have to continue daily zeobak and start over or now once a week?
( Suggest Zeo Bac 2~3 times a week , Zeo Start3 0.1ml=25 US gallons, daily x 2 )

How to further reduce nitrate?
( From the basic products, they are Zeo Bac, start3, Sponge power, ZeoVit materials, It’s also interesting to know the flow of the ZeoVit reactor.)

Now change 10% every week again?
( First confirm that the water quality of Ro is good. Some inferior machines. Export water quality. Contains SI. In the picture, it's good to refresh the elements in a balanced way. If you like to get Zeo Coral Snow, maybe it's a good choice.)

Can I start with zeostenen so that I can start with the full zeo?
( I don't know the meaning of "zeostenen", of course, starting with the complete Zeo system.)

#2, G.Alexander teacher, provides a perfect method

G.Alexander said, I will also replace the green hose with a silicone hose to see if there is any difference. If they cause problems, you should see improvements quickly after replacement
1: As indicated earlier, I only use zeostart, zeobak and spongepower because i dont want to change to much. So now is it wise to start with the zeovit stones? How much flow and how much zeovit?

2: I have test potassium and it is around 430, little bit high.
Ca 430, Kh 7.6 Po4 went up to 14ppm (0.043)
Nitrate 2 ppm
3: I have order a new di-filter and hoses.
4: I have a bottle of Coral Snow Plus, so should I use this?
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1: As indicated earlier, I only use zeostart, zeobak and spongepower because i dont want to change to much. So now is it wise to start with the zeovit stones? How much flow and how much zeovit?

2: I have test potassium and it is around 430, little bit high.
Ca 430, Kh 7.6 Po4 went up to 14ppm (0.043)
Nitrate 2 ppm
3: I have order a new di-filter and hoses.
4: I have a bottle of Coral Snow Plus, so should I use this?

ZeoVit materials can be used. When Tank exists in animals (corals, fish), ZeoVit materials need to be opened in 3hr and closed in 3hr.

Regarding question 1, G.Alexander provided a very detailed approach,#2

Regarding question 2, follow the recommendations of G.Alexander first. #2

Regarding question 3, you are doing very well. I don't know if the material of the material is perfect, maybe it is good. "silicone hose" is feasible

Regarding question 4, it should be possible, according to the Zeo Guide 1 ml / 100 L / 25 US gallons, 1 – 2 x weekly
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Hello Remi, I am sure NO3 will decrease slowly if you add the ZeoVit material but 5 mg is not really a issue and does not have much of a negative impact to the corals. As your corals do still show issues I would not add the ZeoVit material at this stage. Lets first try to get the corals back to normal so they are showing growth and polyp expansion than lets start adding the ZeoVit material step by step.

CoralSnow Plus does decrease PO4, as you do not have issues with this parameter I would also not use it at the moment, if you decrease PO4 to quick corals might also respond negative.

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Hello Remi, I am sure NO3 will decrease slowly if you add the ZeoVit material but 5 mg is not really a issue and does not have much of a negative impact to the corals. As your corals do still show issues I would not add the ZeoVit material at this stage. Lets first try to get the corals back to normal so they are showing growth and polyp expansion than lets start adding the ZeoVit material step by step.

CoralSnow Plus does decrease PO4, as you do not have issues with this parameter I would also not use it at the moment, if you decrease PO4 to quick corals might also respond negative.

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Sorry, G. I gave a bad suggestion. #42
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Hello Remi, I am sure NO3 will decrease slowly if you add the ZeoVit material but 5 mg is not really a issue and does not have much of a negative impact to the corals. As your corals do still show issues I would not add the ZeoVit material at this stage. Lets first try to get the corals back to normal so they are showing growth and polyp expansion than lets start adding the ZeoVit material step by step.

CoralSnow Plus does decrease PO4, as you do not have issues with this parameter I would also not use it at the moment, if you decrease PO4 to quick corals might also respond negative.

G.Alexander
Thanx G.

I will

1: 10% water change a week.
2: zeobak daily or 2-3 times a week?
3: skim dry or wet?
4: i have pohls extra, is it wise to use it?




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