zeovit.com EcoTech Marine LLC  

Go Back   zeovit.com > General Discussion Forums - International > General Discussion - English

General Discussion - English General Marine Aquaria Discussion with and without ZEOVit.

Active Threads
0 New tank Elos 160 XL
Last Post: Zuboov's
Posted On: Today
Replies: 22
Views: 1,398
0 Live & Refrigerated Foods - New $7.99 Flat Rate 2 day Air Shipping
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 0
Views: 9
5 green algae outbreak
Last Post: Bugger
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 37
Views: 889
0 A restart
Last Post: blackizzz
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 176
Views: 16,338
0 changing to full zeo,need some advice and help
Last Post: wangsz
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 23
Views: 414
0 Zeo Product Dosing
Last Post: scybulski
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 2
Views: 127
0 100g SPS Tank
Last Post: AG Reefer
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 94
Views: 6,881
0 New ZeoVit tank
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 40
Views: 2,024
0 GIVEAWAY: Reef Brite Live Rock Enhance & Reef Enhance
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: 12-10-2018
Replies: 1
Views: 147
0 Farbgebung verbessern
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: 12-10-2018
Replies: 7
Views: 224
More...
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:06 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
Usually, after changing the zeolite, each day, a total of 10 days, zeo bac (1 drop = 100L).

Try to refer to the above G.Alexander's suggestion to do it completely, it would be better, read G.
OK got it. Same with Zeofood7?

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:13 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

4. If the system is running malnourished, you can use additional doses of ZeoFood and AminoAcids later.
(Read it carefully, G.Alexander has a detailed description)

No, because you have algae problems, I suggest you use sponge power.

ZEOfood7
Intended use: Increase the growth of corals and bacteria.
Positive result: reduced nitrate and nitrite
OD symptoms: nuisance algae, cyano, black, brown film

Don't forget that in a malnourished environment, K + (potassium) seems to be an important factor.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:17 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Οκ jacky, thank you so much for your help.
I'll keep you posted on the progress of the tank
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
4. If the system is running malnourished, you can use additional doses of ZeoFood and AminoAcids later.
(Read it carefully, G.Alexander has a detailed description)

No, because you have algae problems, I suggest you use sponge power. Don't forget that in a malnourished environment, K + (potassium) seems to be an important factor.
Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:18 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nt7561 View Post
Οκ jacky, thank you so much for your help.
I'll keep you posted on the progress of the tank

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Above I have added some more from the kz guide.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:23 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nt7561 View Post
Οκ jacky, thank you so much for your help.
I'll keep you posted on the progress of the tank

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
I am just a beginner, everyone and G. is the treasure of your rich resources.
Reply With Quote
  #21  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:30 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Everyone can help each other. Someone more someone else less. But any help is greatly appreciated
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
I am just a beginner, everyone and G. is the treasure of your rich resources.
Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #22  
Old 09-16-2018, 02:50 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nt7561 View Post
Everyone can help each other. Someone more someone else less. But any help is greatly appreciated

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
You are welcome, if there is something wrong, I hope you forgive. I should go to bed and go to work tomorrow. I look forward to your update of the picture again.
Reply With Quote
  #23  
Old 09-17-2018, 03:27 AM
G.Alexander's Avatar
G.Alexander G.Alexander 目前離線
ZEOadmin
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 35,247
Default

Jacky is right, after each ZeoVit exchange dose ZeoBac daily for 10 days, than cut back to 2 x weekly until the next exchange. Keep always ~ 10% of the old ZeoVit material in the reactor and add 90% fresh material when you replace it.

Because of the algae I would also recommend to stay with the basics at the moment, ZeoFood can be used later to fine tune coral coloration once the problems are fixed and the system is running nutrient poor stabile.

G.Alexander
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 09-17-2018, 01:00 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by G.Alexander View Post
Jacky is right, after each ZeoVit exchange dose ZeoBac daily for 10 days, than cut back to 2 x weekly until the next exchange. Keep always ~ 10% of the old ZeoVit material in the reactor and add 90% fresh material when you replace it.

Because of the algae I would also recommend to stay with the basics at the moment, ZeoFood can be used later to fine tune coral coloration once the problems are fixed and the system is running nutrient poor stabile.

G.Alexander
OK Alexander. Thanks a lot. I will keep dosing only ZeoBak and zeostart and when the tank is stabilized I will start the other supplements

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 09-25-2018, 12:28 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Quick update on the progress. The algae is almost gone. There is some here and there but it's not as before. I have also made my first change of zeolite media and yesterday was the last day of the 10 days of everyday dosing of ZeoBak.
Just a confirmation question. Now I will continue to dose ZeoBak twice a week (3 Drops), zeostart every day, zeofood twice a week (half the recommended dose). Later on I will start to dose again Vitalizer and amino. Is that correct??


Στάλθηκε από το Redmi 5 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 09-25-2018, 01:25 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Algae disappear, can you share your way (sorry for just a few days). Is the appearance of coral tissue lighter? Can you post a coral picture?
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 09-25-2018, 01:38 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Hi jacky,
Well I have made the first zeolite exchange, and kept dosing ZeoBak for 10 days. Zeostart every day and nothing else. On the wc I cleaned as much as algae I could and that's it. Here are some pictures
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
Algae disappear, can you share your way (sorry for just a few days). Is the appearance of coral tissue lighter? Can you post a coral picture?


Στάλθηκε από το Redmi 5 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 09-25-2018, 02:26 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Very good, thank you for the picture, the picture is not very clear, but the corals that are vaguely seen are not getting lighter. At this stage, stabilize kh ca mg and obtain a K+ test package. Usually at K+380 mg, po4 should not rise. What is your current NO3 and PO4? Observe the growth of coral PE. If it is me, I will do the above, make the biology and system more perfect, and let the corals get used to your environment. Once the coral tissue becomes light and grows well, when it really approaches the ULNS state, I will start to slowly increase the feeding. (Enter the second phase of KZ). If you do the first phase, you can save some trouble.

Are you using live rock? The picture doesn't look very stable yet.
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 09-25-2018, 02:33 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

My kh, Mg and Ca are now stabilized.
No3 and po4 are 0.
I should get a K+ test as I don't have one.
The rock (30 kgr) was live but after the tank crash I had to clean it so it was dried out.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
Very good, thank you for the picture, the picture is not very clear, but the corals that are vaguely seen are not getting lighter. At this stage, stabilize kh ca mg and obtain a K+ test package. Usually at K+380 mg, po4 should not rise. What is your current NO3 and PO4? Observe the growth of coral PE. If it is me, I will do the above, make the biology and system more perfect, and let the corals get used to your environment. Once the coral tissue becomes light and grows well, when it really approaches the ULNS state, I will start to slowly increase the feeding. (Enter the second phase of KZ). If you do the first phase, you can save some trouble.

Are you using live rock? The picture doesn't look very stable yet.
Στάλθηκε από το Redmi 5 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 09-25-2018, 02:37 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Since corals are already under pressure, it takes a very stable or mature tank (difficulty) to recover them, so be careful with any changes. If it is me, I will use some high quality live rock in the sump, which will help all the current tanks.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (0 members and 8 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7, Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright by ZeoVit.com