zeovit.com EcoTech Marine LLC  

Go Back   zeovit.com > General Discussion Forums - International > General Discussion - English

General Discussion - English General Marine Aquaria Discussion with and without ZEOVit.

Active Threads
0 New tank Elos 160 XL
Last Post: Zuboov's
Posted On: Today
Replies: 22
Views: 1,401
0 Live & Refrigerated Foods - New $7.99 Flat Rate 2 day Air Shipping
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 0
Views: 9
5 green algae outbreak
Last Post: Bugger
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 37
Views: 895
0 A restart
Last Post: blackizzz
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 176
Views: 16,346
0 changing to full zeo,need some advice and help
Last Post: wangsz
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 23
Views: 417
0 Zeo Product Dosing
Last Post: scybulski
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 2
Views: 128
0 100g SPS Tank
Last Post: AG Reefer
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 94
Views: 6,887
0 New ZeoVit tank
Last Post: jacky
Posted On: Yesterday
Replies: 40
Views: 2,025
0 GIVEAWAY: Reef Brite Live Rock Enhance & Reef Enhance
Last Post: Premiumaq
Posted On: 12-10-2018
Replies: 1
Views: 149
0 Farbgebung verbessern
Last Post: G.Alexander
Posted On: 12-10-2018
Replies: 7
Views: 224
More...
  #1  
Old 09-14-2018, 04:22 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default 75gal Tank zeovit

Hi everyone. I am Nick from Greece.
After a total loss of my mixed reef tank due to a power failure, I decided to start over using zeovit system.

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter: 350
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter :300
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique : Marine Sources DCR-120 Calcium Reactor
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.): No
5. Are you using Ozone: No
6. Are you using UV: No
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume): Super Reef Octopus SRO-2000INT
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels: 0
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels: CA 430, MG 1430, KH 7,3
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.) Live Rock
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.) Hybrid 6X39 T5 and 1 54watt Full Spectrum Led Bar 2 weeks old
12. What corals do you keep;SPS
13. Tissue color (light or dark) : Light - loosing tissue
14. How long has the tank been running : 4 months
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system: Great colours, polyp expansion
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.) ZeoBak, ZeoFood7, Zeostart3, AminoAcids, Vitalizer
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.) 40Kg, 4 months
18. Any present problems: Brown Hair Algae, Tissue loss from some corals
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.), Brown Hair Algae "explosion" and some corals are loosing tissue
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.), CA -Salifert, NO4-Salifert, MG-Salifert, KH-Salifert, PO4-Hanna.
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)Zeobak:twice a week 3 drops, Zeostart3:daily 8 drops, ZeoFood7: twice a week 2 drops, AminoAcid: twice a week 2 drops, Vitalizer:twice a week 2 drops.
22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.) Salinity:1025, Temp: 26C
23. Which salt brand do you use Blau Reef Salt SPS grade
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 09-15-2018, 01:28 AM
G.Alexander's Avatar
G.Alexander G.Alexander 目前離線
ZEOadmin
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 35,247
Default

Hi nt7561



First of all I would recommend to download the dosing guide from:

http://www.korallen-zucht.de/files/z..._english-1.pdf

It contains a lot of useful information and will be helpful to get a feeling for the dosage.

First start with the basics products to decrease nutrients:

1. Place 0.7 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 300 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.3 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 3 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 3 drops. Dose 0.3 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on.

4. The additional dosage of ZeoFood and AminoAcids can be used later if the system runs nutrient poor stabile.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

G.Alexander
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 09-15-2018, 03:17 AM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

G. Alexander first of all thanks for the reply.
As for the guide I have already downloaded it and keep reading it.
Till today I am running the ZeoVit reactor for 25 days and I am about to do my first zeolite replacement. I didn't use the 3 hours interval (3 on - 3 off).
I have already activated carbon in my sump which I change monthly.
If unterstood well you suggest that I should stop dosing amino and Vitalizer?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 09-15-2018, 03:11 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Anyone else having an answer on my question please. Should I stop dosing AminoAcid and Vitalizer or I didn't understand well what Alexander said?
Thanks very much in advance for any help
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 09-15-2018, 10:41 PM
Bugger's Avatar
Bugger Bugger 目前線上
ZEOdabbler
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,136
Default

Is the tank ULNS and if so I think he wants you to add AA's to the tank
What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels: 0
Even if you feed I would still add them to the tank

It dosent sound like your tank is doing so great.
When did you add corals to the tank?
Are they from the old tank?
What kind of light did you have before the upgrade
Do you suspect anything was wrong tissue lose is a sign that something is not right

What kind of brown algae do you have?
Its hard for anyone to chime in without pictures
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 09-16-2018, 03:59 AM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Start by reducing nutrition from the base product
because of your narrative

" 19. Problem description (tissue loss tip, tissue loss base, algae bloom, algae, etc.), brown hair algae "explosion" and some coral loose tissue". Try to stay as stable as possible in New South Wales:

KH 6.5 - 7.5
Ca 400 - 420 mg
Mg 1250 - 1300 mg
K + ~380 mg

For malnourished environments, K + (potassium) seems to be an important factor. I suggest you also get a test kit for this element.

Kz coral snow 3ml per day, Adjust your skimmer to keep it moist, keep it clean, and export as much as possible.

Add water with salt and change the water by 5-10% per week.


The five basic components of the ZEOvit system interact to effectively reduce nutrients and establish water conditions close to the parameters encountered by corals in their natural habitats. The five basic components are:

1. A balanced zeolite mixture (ZEOvit).
2. Microbial Solutions (ZEObak).
3. Combination of bacteria and coral food (ZEOfood)
4. Bacterial food (ZEOstart)
5. Constant filtration with activated carbon
The amount of dose, G.Alexander has provided it to you.



Yes, temporarily stop taking AminoAcid and Vitalizer,
The above instructions, try to finish, let us see the decline of algae

Under normal conditions, the zeolite is replaced by 50%, switched to continuous flow, and 3 drops of zeo bac are added every day for 10 days. Note that the flow does not exceed the recommended value, because I have described the coral tissue loose, I don't know if you are a system conversion or you are using kz. If it is a switching system (three open three off), if it is originally kz, it can be switched to continuous flow after the first change of zeolite.


It may be good to provide some functional algae organisms.
Can algae pictures be provided?

Last edited by jacky; 09-16-2018 at 04:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 09-16-2018, 05:39 AM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will provide pictures as soon as the lights turn on.
The lights are the same as before, just new lamps (t5s).
The corals were given to me by a friend of mine that shut down his tank.
I have started ZeoVit after the tank cycled.
The guide says that after the first zeolite exchange you have to dose every other day for 2 weeks ZeoBak and Zeofood7. You say that I have to dose every day. Which one I have to do?

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 09-16-2018, 05:43 AM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

I have managed to take some photos now...

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 09-16-2018, 06:31 AM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

And a short video http://cloud.tapatalk.com/s/5b9e30f6...2941232_99.mp4

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 09-16-2018, 08:30 AM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Thank you for the picture and video. If it is me, I will do this, confirm good ro/di water, and prepare about 40 liters of sea water. After turning off the device, take some water from the tank and remove the coral creatures for temporary placement. Take the rive rock out, manually remove or brush it, brush it with a tank brush, or brush the algae in the tank, don't take out the live rock. Then open the cycle, siphon the algae and replace the 40L water.

Here are some suggestions for you: the new tank biology is not stable and the coral is not in good condition. Add functional creatures, snails, or shrimps. Follow it on G.Alexander's advice, zeo coral snow assist, kz sponge power 3 drops a day.

Please note: the coral condition is not very good. The water quality element level should not fluctuate too much.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 09-16-2018, 11:37 AM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Jacky, thanks for the reply.
I did a water change of 40 litres and I did brush off most of the algae. I didn't want to stress too much the tank so I will do it again during the next wc.
I also have bought some turbo - trochous snails for the tank.
As for the coral snow - spur I am going to get them iot dose the tank.
The elements of the water are quite stable with no fluctuations (kh, Mg, ca, temp, salinity, PH, No3, po4)
And I also use passively activated carbon in the sump

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 09-16-2018, 12:25 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nt7561 View Post
Jacky, thanks for the reply.
I did a water change of 40 litres and I did brush off most of the algae. I didn't want to stress too much the tank so I will do it again during the next wc.
I also have bought some turbo - trochous snails for the tank.
As for the coral snow - spur I am going to get them iot dose the tank.
The elements of the water are quite stable with no fluctuations (kh, Mg, ca, temp, salinity, PH, No3, po4)
And I also use passively activated carbon in the sump

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Well done, it seems that you have quite a wealth of knowledge and experience skills
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 09-16-2018, 12:30 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jacky View Post
Well done, it seems that you have quite a wealth of knowledge and experience skills
Thanks a lot jacky
Please let me show some photos of my tank before the power failure that led to the loss of it Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180407_193025.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	23.1 KB
ID:	21594Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180407_193156.jpg
Views:	26
Size:	24.8 KB
ID:	21595Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20180406_204600.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	22.5 KB
ID:	21596

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 09-16-2018, 12:33 PM
nt7561 nt7561 目前離線
ZEOhead in Training
 
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: GREECE
Posts: 26
Default

Jacky, one more question please.
Yesterday I have made the first zeolite exchange. Should I dose ZeoBak - zeofood as per the guide every other day for 2 weeks or every day for 10 days??

Sent from my Redmi 5 using Tapatalk
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 09-16-2018, 01:57 PM
jacky jacky 目前離線
ZEOhead
 
Join Date: May 2018
Location: Asia
Posts: 1,010
Default

Usually, after changing the zeolite, each day, a total of 10 days, zeo bac (1 drop = 100L).

Try to refer to the above G.Alexander's suggestion to do it completely, it would be better, read G.

G.Alexander explained very clearly. In addition, I saw a coral phenomenon from the picture. I went back to see your tank message again. Bingo~

let us do it according to the instructions.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 8 (0 members and 8 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:58 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.8.7, Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright by ZeoVit.com