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View Poll Results: Pls decide for me
Canon 400D 10 25.00%
Nikon D80 27 67.50%
Other - pls advise 3 7.50%
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Old 03-19-2007, 01:54 AM
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Default Canon 400D or Nikon D80?

I cant choose between them - please decide for me

The main use will be for macro shots of the tank - so any lense recomendation would be helpful too.

Manythanks

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Old 03-19-2007, 03:41 AM
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Simon, I've had the Nikon D70 for over a year now and thouroughly enjoy the camera. I'll be the first to admit that it is waaaaaay beyond my capabilities, skill and knowledge level. I'm overall pleased with my purchase.

I haven't bought a lens yet, but will be buying a 105 mm 2.8F Macro lens. All of my research has taught me that the glass is the most important part of the lens. dpreview.com has lots of reviews on cameras and lenses.

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Finally decided to get a SLR! good man

I use the Nikon D50 and I will also be getting 105 Micro lens (Nikon Micro is Macro to everyone else in the world!) in begining of April - my mum is bringing one over for me from HK when she comes to visit. I'll pop round and you can have a go if you can wait that long!

TBH - theres probably not much between the two cameras - look more to what lenses you want as thats where you'll be spending the most money
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I like the feel (size) of the Nikon D50 and D200, I think the Canon 350D are just too small.
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Try:

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/comp..._d200&show=all

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos400d/

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond80/
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I second the Nikon SLR, I have a D50 and it's awesome
not a huge fan of the canons

I have a few freinds with Canons, but they all wish they got the Nikon.
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Many thanks for the comments so far guys

@ CA - The D70 is nice and cheap now, but shutter lag times are a bit slow;

@ Kieth M - If I paypal you could your mum help me out too mate?

@ Majestic - thanks for the dp review links - those are what lead to my indecision - if you look at the 'compared to' pages what does everyone else see as the better cleaerer pics?


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I've read that a quality lens is the most important part of the dSLR, while the body comes second, and it's what you want to spend money on.

Perhaps have a look at the type of photography that you want to get into, (macro?) then look at the lenses and costs. A mate of mine (another student) was shocked that (in his opinion) Nikon doesnt have any mid quality lenses for his needs. He as assuming he could pick up a "good" lens for around $600 for his brand new D200, and ended up spending $2200+ for one lens.

Here are some I did myself, I just used the standard lenses and put the cameras on AUTO, Im certainly not "pro", but this may help. Can you get down to your local photography store and take some shots with the two cameras, and just get a feel for them?

Canon 350D:


Nikon D50:


Olympus C7070:


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Hi Josh

Yes macro is my main interest ATM. Actually, I think you'v just shorted it out for me: Lense first; Canon provide cheaper mid range macros; therefore 400D.

Any recomendations as to canon lense?

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Yep:

http://www.usa.canon.com/consumer/co...5&modelid=7400
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Nikon is the way to go, you will be much happier with your choice. I have shot with Nikon forever, have a D100 and D70 had a Canon 100D and was not impressed with it at all.

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Many thanks for the comments so far guys

@ CA - The D70 is nice and cheap now, but shutter lag times are a bit slow;

@ Kieth M - If I paypal you could your mum help me out too mate?

@ Majestic - thanks for the dp review links - those are what lead to my indecision - if you look at the 'compared to' pages what does everyone else see as the better cleaerer pics?


Cheers

Simon
Si, I can probably sort one out for you, however, I bought my camera body (and kit lens) from jessops purely for the warranty and iv'e already to use it. first camera was a bit dud and they changed it for me on the spot. Something to think about if you want to buy from abroad
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Many thanks for the comments so far guys

@ CA - The D70 is nice and cheap now, but shutter lag times are a bit slow;

Simon
Not sure I agree with this comment entirely. Although I've nothing to compare my Nikon to, I've taken my D70 to the dragstrip and can get 6 pics in burst mode from the time the light goes green to the 60' mark. Just a touch over 2 seconds in the car we campaign. This is in the largest format, high res.

how much faster it would need to be for a fish tank.

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Not sure I agree with this comment entirely. Although I've nothing to compare my Nikon to, I've taken my D70 to the dragstrip and can get 6 pics in burst mode from the time the light goes green to the 60' mark. Just a touch over 2 seconds in the car we campaign. This is in the largest format, high res.

how much faster it would need to be for a fish tank.

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OH ok Marshal - just going by what my father in law caomplains about He a birder, so needs pretty much an instant resposne, but if you are getting that maybe its not the tool


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I've never tried to use it for something like that, I've always had the luxury of knowing exactly where my subject is, and going to be. I've taken a total of maybe a dozen pictures outside other than at the race track and haven't tried to snap a bird in flight. The D70 could very well be lacking in this type of instantaneous response. That's just not one of the criteria I have to consider for my use in and around my aquarium, nor anything I've experimented with. But a valid point for someone shopping for a multi purpose camera.

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