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Old 07-01-2018, 05:50 PM
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Exclamation Brown Algae and Stagnant Coral Growth

Hello I am struggling with my system. I cant seem to knock the dino and the rock is accumulating heavy algae growth. My two SPS corals are stagnant and are decaying. Please let me know what you can do to help me. Also I will list all chemicals I have and if anyone could please help with a dosing regimen that would be very helpful.

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (100 us gal)
2. Net water volume (80gal)
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique (NO)
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (NO)
5. Are you using Ozone (NO)
6. Are you using UV (NO)
7. What skimmer are you using (reef octopus regal 200-s)
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels (PO4 <.01ppm, NO3 0ppm)
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels (K=365, Ca=400, Mag= 1400, KH= 7)
10. What filtration method do you use (skimmer, carbon, filter sock)
11. Type of light (2 Kessil 180, 1 radion xr30 gen 4 using coral growth mode)
12. What corals do you keep (2 small chalice frags 1 porites frag)
13. Tissue color (pale)
14. How long has the tank been running ( 1 year )
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system (sps dominant tank)
16. Any supplemental dosing (see above chemicals)
17. Live rock (i used dry rock aprox 60-70lbs)
18. Any present problems (Dino/tissue necrosis/maybe flatworms so small its hard to see)
19. Problem description (rocks went from dark green algae on them to hairy slimy brown algae, tissue degrading on coral, very small snail like things on glass.)
20. What test kit do you use (Red Sea KH Ca Mg and K all new/PO4/N03)
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEObak twice weekly 4 drops, ZEOstart .75ml per day, Sponge Power 3 drops daily)
22. Other water parameters and water stability (apex readings are Salinity 33-34ppt, ORP 466, Temp 77-78F, PH 8.4-8.7 sway daily)
23. Which salt brand do you use (KZ reefers best or Red Sea blue bucket when not in stock)

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Old 07-01-2018, 06:07 PM
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Here are some photos of how bad it gets
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:09 PM
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When the night lights turn on again or they stay there, will they disappear when they recover quickly at night? do you have pictures
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:10 PM
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:24 PM
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Chemicals I have to utilize:
K-Balance strong , B-Balance concentrate, Eisen Concentrate, ZeoSpur2, Coral Snow Plus, ZeoBak, ZeoStart3, Amino Acid Concentrate, ZeoFood7, FlatwormStop, Pohls Xtra Special, SpongePower, BioMate, Coral Vitalizer, ZeoLife, ZeoZym, Reef Roids.

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (100 us gal)
2. Net water volume (80gal)
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique (NO)
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (NO)
5. Are you using Ozone (NO)
6. Are you using UV (NO)
7. What skimmer are you using (reef octopus regal 200-s)
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels (PO4 <.01ppm, NO3 0ppm)
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels (K=365, Ca=400, Mag= 1400, KH= 7)
10. What filtration method do you use (skimmer, carbon, filter sock)
11. Type of light (2 Kessil 180, 1 radion xr30 gen 4 using coral growth mode)
12. What corals do you keep (2 small chalice frags 1 porites frag)
13. Tissue color (pale)
14. How long has the tank been running ( 1 year )
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system (sps dominant tank)
16. Any supplemental dosing (see above chemicals)
17. Live rock (i used dry rock aprox 60-70lbs)
18. Any present problems (Dino/tissue necrosis/maybe flatworms so small its hard to see)
19. Problem description (rocks went from dark green algae on them to hairy slimy brown algae, tissue degrading on coral, very small snail like things on glass.)
20. What test kit do you use (Red Sea KH Ca Mg and K all new/PO4/N03)
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEObak twice weekly 4 drops, ZEOstart .75ml per day, Sponge Power 3 drops daily)
22. Other water parameters and water stability (apex readings are Salinity 33-34ppt, ORP 466, Temp 77-78F, PH 8.4-8.7 sway daily)
23. Which salt brand do you use (KZ reefers best or Red Sea blue bucket when not in stock)
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:43 PM
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Have you tried a black out
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:49 PM
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Yes I tried a black out for 4 days. It came back right away. Do you believe the problem is stemming from the dosing regimen or the water quality being put into the tank? I Have a 6 stage RO/DI system and its reading 0 TDS.
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:51 PM
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Check your reverse osmosis water with a precision DTS meter and mix 3 drops of bak with 6ml coral snow every 10 days. Remember to stop the carbon source start3 and eg: feed AA, Jod, pIf, fe.... And reduce the lighting time, check the full flow, manually brush out, and use good water and good salt Change the water and get the organic matter out of the tank, use a good activated carbon can help, you can do this first. Can also be used with zym mix bak
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Old 07-01-2018, 06:54 PM
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I think this is a carbon source excess start3, be sure to temporarily stop adding it. Stop 2 weeks to see, believe me
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Old 07-01-2018, 07:40 PM
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Some functional organisms can be added, and the ecological balance of bacteria can be lost. A good live rock can help balance the system back. Live rock can be washed out with the tank's sea water to remove the salt and change the water.
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:09 PM
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I had the same problem, the only thing that fixed it was increasing the nitrate and phosphate levels through a larger fish population and increased feedings of the fish and corals. The dinos seem to thrive at very low nitrate and phosphate levels.

-Leland
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:29 PM
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You have to determine what algae this is。https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/di...6#post-3749381
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Old 07-01-2018, 08:46 PM
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Its dinoflagellate 100%. What about dialing back the carbon and skimmer a little to help slow the nutrient removal?
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Old 07-01-2018, 09:54 PM
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The mechanism of hydrogen peroxide is redox. In fact, potassium permanganate has a similar effect. It seems that third-order iron is also. In fact, algae is related to the content of organic matter in many cases. Inorganic matter is also converted to organic matter. Therefore, it seems that there is a permanent cure effect on organic matter from the source. Activated carbon is the question you ask. It can adsorb small organic molecules. Perhaps pulling N/P slightly higher will allow the green algae/ brown algae to have room for growth and inhibit the growth of dino. Zz + snow is very useful. It is an "enzyme". Simply speaking, it is not a bacterium. It is a kind of bacterium. The bacterium has no food. It gradually changes the system and adds light to promote it.
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Old 07-01-2018, 11:17 PM
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http://reefkeeping.com/issues/2006-11/rhf/index.php
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