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Old 08-26-2018, 03:38 AM
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Hello everybody ,
Tank started at the beginning of July :

Dimensions 120*60*55
Extra clear glass

In/out xaqua

Led maxspect rsxr5 settled at 30 70 70 30

skimmer bubble magus curve d8

2x maxspect gyre 250
Live substrate caribsea araglive black

zeolit reactor and zeovit method started 4 days ago zeolite inserted 2 weeks ago
Daily dosing: zeobac 4 drops, ZEOfood7 4 drops, ZEOstart2 1 ml

no3 25 po4 0.5 kh 7 mg 1470 ca 500

tests all nyos apart no3 elos

animals in tank since 4 weeks because I had to dismiss another thank
(various lps and 2 sps , 4 chromis
at the moment I am not feeding them

I am please asking you :
- the zeovit dosing for the first two weeks is that Allright?
I will have to stop the method from 7 to 15 September because I'll go on holiday..
- all the values since I started the tank never change, do I have to worry about it?

Picture made at the beginning of the photo period

Thanks in advance and sorry for my English

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Old 08-26-2018, 03:40 AM
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Old 08-26-2018, 08:15 AM
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Hello Willow84, welcome to Zeovit, have a question about what sand they are, and the water does not look clear.
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Old 08-26-2018, 09:07 AM
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Hello Willow84, welcome to Zeovit, have a question about what sand they are, and the water does not look clear.
The sand is:
https://www.google.it/search?q=Carib...GhJA3rN5Ty_mM:

The picture was made with a broken iPhone, the lens was very dirty...
Any suggestion?
I am willing to use Carbon on top of the zeolite reactor

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Old 08-26-2018, 02:15 PM
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I probably know the correct way, but I saw you saying that there will be a trip in the future, this can test me down, let us wait for the advice of G.Alexander, let me learn by the way, thank you
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Old 08-26-2018, 03:23 PM
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I probably know the correct way, but I saw you saying that there will be a trip in the future, this can test me down, let us wait for the advice of G.Alexander, let me learn by the way, thank you
Ok thank you so much hope he will read the post

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Old 08-26-2018, 06:17 PM
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I don't know how much your water is. If it is 135 US gallons,

use 0.5 liters of activated carbon in a filter bag and place it in a passive flow in the sump, changing every 30 days. Rub the carbon every day to keep the surface clean. Most users get the perfect result with korallenzucht carbon

Use kz coral snow 5ml per day, adjust the skimmer to wet and change the water to vacuum.

This part can be used first without problems.

The page above is sticky about the complete description of tank, please also explain


Http://www.korallen-zucht.de/files/z..._english-1.pdf
It contains a lot of useful information to help you understand the dose. Try to stay as stable as possible in New South Wales:

KH 6.5 - 7.5
Ca 400 - 420 mg
Mg 1250 - 1300 mg
K + ~380 mg

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Old 08-27-2018, 01:47 AM
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Thanks a lot,
My tank is 105,669 us gallon 400 liters,
CA mg and kh are 7 500 and 1470 since the beginning no way to change them...
I've bought the kz carbon and I'll put 400 gr of it in sump if you agree.
The link doesn't open
Just ordered coral snow
Can I feed just a touch the fish?

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Please share some more information about your system:

http://zeovit.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14

In the picture it looks like the sand has some kind of a brown film, have you had this since the beginning ?

What is your personal feeling for the nutrients, NO3 and PO4 are both very high, have you a idea where this is coming from ?

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Old 08-27-2018, 02:38 AM
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Tell us about your tank.

Please give us answers to the following questions in order to get more accurate dosing recommendations.

1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
480 liter approx
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - US gallons / UK gallons / liter
400 liter

3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique
No
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.)
No
5. Are you using Ozone
No
6. Are you using UV
No
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume)
Bubble magus D8
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels
PO4 0,50 NYOS no3 25 elos

9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels
CA 500 alk 7 mg 1470
They never change since the beginning
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.)
None
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.)
Maxspect rsx 5 30 70 70 30

12. What corals do you keep
2 sps various LPS and soft
13. Tissue color (light or dark)
Light
14. How long has the tank been running
July 2018
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system
To keep nutrients low and to have a system stable
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.)
None
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.)
25kg premium New and 25 kg from and old tank
18. Any present problems
Some of the rocks present some brown algae

19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.)

20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.)
New NYOS test
21. Present dosing, amounts and intervals (ZEOvit, ZEObak, ZEOfood, ZEOstart, ZEOspur2, etc.)
Zeovit protocol as instructed:
Zeovit 1 lt in a zeolit reactor inserted 4 weeks ago
Zeoback 4 drops daily
Zeofood 7 4drops daily
Zeostart 3 1 ml daily
Started 5 days ago

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.)
Salinity 1025 temperature 26 degrees
23. Which salt brand do you use
Reeflowers
I know there are a lot of questions. Please be as detailed (and honest) as possible and feel free to elaborate on anything else you think may be important.

Start a new thread and give us as much information as possible.

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Old 08-27-2018, 02:43 AM
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No idea why po4 and no3 are so high, I have a brand new 4 stadium osmosis filter
The sand doesn't look brown and corals seems to be ok

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Old 08-27-2018, 02:51 AM
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Thank you for the additional information.

I would recommend to continue as follows:

1. Place 1 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 400 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.4 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 4 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 4 drops. Dose 0.4 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on. As long as nutrients are high stop dosing ZeoFood.

The combination of Live Sand and ZeoVit has caused issues for many getting constant some kind of a brown film or cyanos on the sand / rocks. If this is the case it might make sense to replace the sand step by step using a shallow sand bed of dry aragonite.

As nutrients are really high your will need patience until they start to decrease, this can take up to a couple of month.

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Old 08-27-2018, 02:59 AM
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Ok I'll do as suggested. Do I have to dose reef snow as well?
Can I feed fish and corals?

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Old 08-27-2018, 10:00 AM
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Thank you for the additional information.

I would recommend to continue as follows:

1. Place 1 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 400 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.4 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 4 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 3 x weekly dosage of 4 drops. Dose 0.4 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on. As long as nutrients are high stop dosing ZeoFood.

The combination of Live Sand and ZeoVit has caused issues for many getting constant some kind of a brown film or cyanos on the sand / rocks. If this is the case it might make sense to replace the sand step by step using a shallow sand bed of dry aragonite.

As nutrients are really high your will need patience until they start to decrease, this can take up to a couple of month.

G.Alexander
I'll be away from 7 to 14 September nobody can watch the tank for me do you suggest to change the zeolite this week and follow the dosing this week or leave everything including the old zeolit and start when I'll be back?
Can I feed fish?
Thanks in advance

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Old 08-28-2018, 02:22 AM
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At the moment it is not necessary to feed the corals additional, feeding fish as usual. If you are away it would be good to dose ZeoStart with some kind of a dosing system. The product can be diluted which makes it easier to dose. This will make sure that the biology will develop furthermore. Otherwise just continue dosing if you return as usual. If you use a dosing system for ZeoStart make sure it is working well before leaving.

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