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hi i plan to change from fm to Zeovit , please help on the transition


1. Gross water volume of your complete system (incl. sump etc.) - 600 Litres
2. Net water volume (incl. sump etc.) - 600 litres
3. Are you using a CaCO2 reactor or other technique : Caribsea extra course media with Grotech mg in the CR
4. Are you using a PO4 reactor (how long, how long ago, etc.) : yes. ROWA
5. Are you using Ozone: no
6. Are you using UV: no
7. What skimmer are you using (type, rated water volume): Deltec Sc1455
8. What are your actual PO4 and NO3 levels: No3 = 10 and po4 = 0.2
9. What are your actual Ca, Alk and Mg levels: Ca=430ppm, Alk=7.45dKh, Mg=1350ppm
10. What filtration method do you use (refugium, DSB, Miracle Mud, etc.): 2x Marine pure 8x8x4
11. Type of light (Watt, color temp, how old, etc.):ATI 8x54W
12. What corals do you keep: Mixed LPS and SPS
13. Tissue color (light or dark): brownish and skin dropped
14. How long has the tank been running: 3 month
15. Why do you want to use the ZEOvit system: no
16. Any supplemental dosing (type, amount, why, etc.):
17. Live rock (how much, how old, etc.): replica aragonite rocks
18. Any present problems :
19. Problem description (tissue loss tips, tissue loss base, diatom bloom, algae, etc.): hard time too keep healthy SPS
20. What test kit do you use (how old, recently switched, etc.): Salifert and Hanna checker

22. Other water parameters and water stability (salinity, temp, etc.): salinity 1.025, temp 26 degrees
23. Which salt brand do you use: FM salt 10% water change each weeks..

i have been dosing :

Daily : 4 ml ultra bak , 2 ml amin, 2 ml minS
3 ml of organics - once a week
1 cap of RV and 4 spoons of Coral Balance
600l of zeolight at 500l/h flow
300l of carb l in filter bag
3ml of CE once a week
15 ml of bakto blend and 15ml of theraphie after water change
8 bakto balls change out every 2 weeks
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anyone can help ?
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Hello David, I have never used the FM system but basically you should be able to keep corals healthy with it. I expect that the problems you experience at the moment does not have a direct link to this system so there must be a additional problem. The system is still young and you have used some kind of replica rocks, not sure if this combination is the problem. I just do not want to tell you to move to zeovit as I do not expect it will be much difference in your situation.

My recommendation would be trying to keep the corals alive with the system you use and in the second step you can change to zeovit if you like to.

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i plan to change to zeovit and can you advice me on what to dose ?

i am getting the following :

bak, sponge power, start3 , a balance , Zeolite and carbon
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As mention before you can do but I do not expect it is the quick fix to the problems.

First start with the basics products to decrease nutrients:

1. Place 1.2 liter zeovit in a Zeo Reactor. Water flow around 480 liters per hour. Connect the reactor pump to a clock timer and run the reactor pump with a 3 hour on / 3 hour off / 3 hour on interval. Please make sure the zeolite is not exposed to air while the pump is switched off. Clean the material daily. Leave the zeolite 4 weeks in the filter until you do the first change out. This is the first changing interval, others could be lengthen to 6 – 8 weeks.

2. Place 0.5 liters activated carbon in a filter sock and keep it in a passive water flow in your sump, changed every 30 days. Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean. Most users get perfect results with korallenzucht carbon.

3. Dose 5 drops ZeoBac daily for the first 2 weeks, flowed by a 2 – 3 x weekly dosage of 5 drops. Dose 0.5 ml ZeoStart 2 x daily (morning & evening). Dose those in front of the Zeo reactor pump while it is switched on. As you already have SpongePower dose 5 drops every other day additional.

Later on you could use the additional products for coral coloration. Adjust your skimmer to skim wet, keeping it clean to export as much as possible. Do a weekly water change of 5 – 10 % with a good salt.

With the system it is not recommended to use a PO4 absorber. I would recommend to remove 1/3 of the absorber if you start with zeovit, than reduce the rest over the next 6 – 8 weeks step by step to zero. If this is done keep a eye on the PO4 level which should not increase.

Basic water parameters looking good, try to keep them as stabile as possible close the NSW in the following ranges:

KH 6.5 – 7.5
Ca 400 – 420 mg
Mg 1250 – 1300 mg
K+ ~ 380 mg

For a nutrient poor environment K+ (potassium) seems to be a important element. I would recommend you to get a test kit for this element also, posting your results.

When you start with Zeovit remove the different kind of zeolite material you use and stop dosing the coloration elements from FM you use. If there are any kind of bacteria or carbon sources you add (I am not familiar with their product line) reduce the quantity to 50%, than reduce the addition slowly step by step over the next 4 weeks to zero.

This is a start-up dosage which might have to be adjusted later.

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just need to clarify : Knead the carbon daily to keep the surface clean

take out and shake or what should i do ?
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Just knead it under water (submergerd).

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Is it a must to run 3hr /3hrs ???


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If you have corals in the system already I would recommend to use the interval otherwise to corals might get stressed to much.

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Just knead it under water (submergerd).

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do you mean to stir the carbon under water?
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Yes.

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Is it ok to dose zeolife , coral booster and fws ???


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If you do not have cynao or algae issues you can use it if you like to when you feel it is necessary. CB and FWS 2 x weekly @ 1 ml / 100 liters and Live 1 x weekly as recommended on the bottle.

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If you do not have cynao or algae issues you can use it if you like to when you feel it is necessary. CB and FWS 2 x weekly @ 1 ml / 100 liters and Live 1 x weekly as recommended on the bottle.



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On the zeolife bottle recommended for daily dosage


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can i change the carbon on the same day as zeolite ?
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